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    Why don't they just ing re-name the award "Shotblocker of the year"?

    that asshole Camby for finally playing more than 70 games. the voters, too.

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    I know this HAS to be have mentioned at least 5 times in this thread but if Camby is the true DPOY wouldn't he be guarding Tim Duncan?

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    Those shot blockers were straight up, in your face post defenders. I seriously doubt there is any bias toward a weakside shot blocker for this award. For 60+ games this year, before Denver started playing any D at all, Camby guarded the paint alone, kept them in the hunt and has the ability to take over games. It's very difficult to quantify the difference a truley great shot blocker can make in a game, (mostly due to the fact that people will not challenge as much) but he changes everything. Throw in 12 boards, a couple of steals and a great outlet passing ability to kickstart fast breaks, and it is very difficult to argue against this pick. And it particular, its shameful to suggest that Camby is not an exceptional defensive player.
    I would say Camby is a very good defender, I wouldn't call him exceptional and put him in the class of Robinson and Hakeem. But when you look at the context of the game, Camby has never been on any great defensive teams outside of the late 90s Knicks. You can argue it's the system, but the fact remains that very few teams have capitalized on Camby's defense to build a great team, and there is a reason for that, because he is not the type of player that a team can build a defense around.
    Duncan does that, Bowen does that, Wallace does that (a few years ago), Hakeem did that, Robinson did that, Rodman did that.
    Would I want Camby on the Spurs, of course, I think he would help the Spurs defense a lot, but that is in place of Oberto and Elson Francisco. Can I subs ute the defensive Camby for the defensive Duncan and get similar results, no.
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    I live in Montreal, and I've watched lots of Raps games.
    And you can't tell that Mitc runs two offensive plays?
    There is no defensive structure?
    It took Bryan Colengelo to tell him how to run the team. The Raptors would be MUCH better off with a coach like Silas or Adelman.

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    hilarious, fragile little Mr. Glass won DPOY. just goes to show, the only award that means anything is the finals mvp. all the rest is bull .

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    hilarious, fragile little Mr. Glass won DPOY. just goes to show, the only award that means anything is the finals mvp. all the rest is bull .
    mvp is just as gay dude.

    edit: i notice now you meant finals mvp .i can agree with this.

    You're still a tool

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    seriously if duncan doesnt get at least 1 dpoy out his career is as bs as shaq only winnin 1 mvp for his career.....

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    seriously if duncan doesnt get at least 1 dpoy out his career is as bs as shaq only winnin 1 mvp for his career.....
    wahhhhhh

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    i dont know what the problem is guys. personally (not being a homer), i think that camby deserves this as much as you guys think bowen or td does.

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    i dont know what the problem is guys. personally (not being a homer), i think that camby deserves this as much as you guys think bowen or td does.
    answer: homer

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    And you can't tell that Mitc runs two offensive plays?
    There is no defensive structure?
    It took Bryan Colengelo to tell him how to run the team. The Raptors would be MUCH better off with a coach like Silas or Adelman.
    He wanted to do that before, but Alston was such a bad decision maker at the time ; plus, they didn't look eye to eye

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    duncan is goin to destroy this fool in game 3

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    Camby is a great rebounder and weak side shot blocker. The fact that he got the award playing on a largely terrible defensive team that only started to come together at the end of the season due to having two fantastcally good offensive players just indicates to me that the voters are a) looking at stats rather than watching games and b) penalizing Bowen for being "dirty".

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    Camby is a great rebounder and weak side shot blocker. The fact that he got the award playing on a largely terrible defensive team that only started to come together at the end of the season due to having two fantastcally good offensive players just indicates to me that the voters are a) looking at stats rather than watching games and b) penalizing Bowen for being "dirty".
    c> penalizing duncan>refs

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    He wanted to do that before, but Alston was such a bad decision maker at the time ; plus, they didn't look eye to eye
    Mike James is an even WORSE decision maker, so Mitc gave him the ball in all the clutch situations. Talk about a bad coach.

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    Good Camby deserved it.

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    Tony Parker needs to learn that Camby does know how to block shots...in two games, Parker's had his stuffed by Camby at least 4 times.

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    Mike James is an even WORSE decision maker, so Mitc gave him the ball in all the clutch situations. Talk about a bad coach.
    He had no choice then

    Plus, u have to credit him because Colangelo brought a lot of new players, and people didn't expect the team to be so good so fast

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    After yesterday's game, how can so called "voting experts" not see that Bowen clearly is long overdue for this award?

    In a critical Game 2 of the playoffs 6'2 Bowen defended the TWO top scorers in the league...a Bigger, Stronger player in Carmelo Anthony and then later a Smaller, Quicker player in Iverson...and held both in check.

    Meanwhile, Camby guarded the paint and 2nd string centers in Oberto/Elson for the first 3 quarters. During this time, Parker continuously got to the rim and foul line 8 times, Oberto had 8 points. In crunch time for only one quarter he's asked to defend the other team's best player...Tim Duncan, and really didn't do much to stop him.

    Yes, he had rebounds and blocked shots so he clearly deserves the award.

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    We live in the age where "generate empty stats" = "win individual awards".

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    He had no choice then

    Plus, u have to credit him because Colangelo brought a lot of new players, and people didn't expect the team to be so good so fast
    He had Calderon, he had Bosh at the end of the game, he can even give the ball to Arujao! Giving the ball to Mike James is the worst decision a coach could ever ever make.
    And that is the whole point of my rant. The Raptors are not expected to do anything this year because of being underachievers last year, and it's because of Mitc . Just because they have realized their potential doesn't mean that Mitc did a good job.
    Look at the games, the players are freelancing out their, it means that they aren't following what Mitc is telling them to do.
    I keep asking, tell me ONE set play outside of high screen and roll and Bosh isolation that Mitc runs, there is none.

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    He had Calderon, he had Bosh at the end of the game, he can even give the ball to Arujao! Giving the ball to Mike James is the worst decision a coach could ever ever make.
    And that is the whole point of my rant. The Raptors are not expected to do anything this year because of being underachievers last year, and it's because of Mitc . Just because they have realized their potential doesn't mean that Mitc did a good job.
    Look at the games, the players are freelancing out their, it means that they aren't following what Mitc is telling them to do.
    I keep asking, tell me ONE set play outside of high screen and roll and Bosh isolation that Mitc runs, there is none.
    Ok, he made some mistakes, but the guy was learning

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    Official :

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2851168

    Camby second Nugget to win top defensive award



    Marcus Camby stayed healthy and in the Denver Nuggets' everyday lineup this season, and now he's been recognized as the NBA's top defensive player for 2006-07.



    The Nuggets' center was named Friday as the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year. The Denver Post first reported Camby's selection on its Web site Friday morning.

    Camby, an 11-year veteran, averaged a league-best 3.3 blocked shots, 1.2 steals and a double-double -- 11.6 rebounds and 11.2 points.

    Camby breaks Ben Wallace's stranglehold on the award. Wallace, the Chicago Bulls' center, won the past two and four of the past five as a Detroit Pistons.

    It wasn't Camby's best defensive season statistically, but the strength of those numbers overall put him alongside Dikembe Mutombo (1995) as the only Nugget to be named defensive player of the year.

    "It would be the greatest award I've received, other than college player of the year [at the University of Massachusetts in 1996]," Camby told The Post in a telephone interview Thursday. "There are so many great people that won the award."

    NBA commissioner David Stern is expected to give Camby the award prior to Game 3 Saturday night against San Antonio in Denver, The Post reports

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    all i can say is, this bs once again, stats

    tim duncan hope he brings his n a-game tonite and n destroy nuggets frontline... this BS. in the future are they going to reward duncan one out of pity would be a slap in the face for all those years missin out is like music artist who devote 20yrs to music to not win jack and on grammy nite wins a life achievement award = N LAME.

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