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No way Orlando does that deal.
Gosh, this is hilarious. Maybe next year, Little Brother.
No way Orlando does that deal.
Unless the Mavs come back and win this then they won't be able to trade Dirk straight up for Gasol. Seriously.
You're a madman if you want to trade Jason Terry. The guy's a stone-cold assassin, just like Stephen Jackson was/is. Of course, I also think you're a nut for wanting to trade Nowitzki. There's no way mister 43% FG Jermaine O'Neal is going to lead a team to a le, and KG has lost claim to being one of the all-time greats after failing to make the playoffs three years in a row.
yeah, he just killed our season. good point.
I wouldn't rule out Dirk for KG. I'm not sure the Wolves could do better than that, and I actually think Dirk might be a pretty good fit for that team if they can get a banger/rebounder in the draft.
The problem with Dirk, as much as I like him and as cool a guy as he seems to be, is that he isn't the kind of leader that inspires his teammates.... at least, not these teammates. When I watch the Mavs I get the feeling that his teammates are very reluctantly conceding that this is his team, and I keep waiting for them to just say " it" and decide they can do it better themselves. It's like when you have a boss who you know isn't as good at his job as his le suggests... you defer to him in meetings and such, but you end up getting frustrated and the whole group underperforms.
I think players like Terry and Howard and Harris would respond a lot better to a player like KG. At the same time, I think Avery would really help KG hone his game and focus on being a dominant post presence rather than the do-everything player he's been in Minnesota.
Meanwhile, it's very possible that the Wolves would respond better, at least in the short term, to a player like Dirk who isn't overbearing.
On the other hand, maybe this was just the worst possible matchup for the Mavs and they'll be fine next year with the same group.
Things to do this offseason so far:
-Dirk for KG (if they'll even do this trade)
-Get Stackhouse the outta here, sign Desmond Mason to replace him
-George, Buckner, Croshere all need to get the out
-Trade Terry?
I'd do this trade in a heartbeat. Say what you want about KG not being a post player, the guy brings it on defense and that's what we need. And he's got a nasty streak in him that Dirk will never have.
Seriously, Dirk could walk in on his own mother being gang raped at knifepoint and he'd just calmly say "Uh, hey guys, I know this is an inconvenience for you and all, but do you think that maybe you could, i dunno, try to um maybe not rape my mother?"
Dirk needs to go.
I still think we need someone in the post who can score... and it wont be Diop/Damp/Dirk... so what to do about that lack of presence on the offensive end there? just wondering @ Mono...
I could understand gettin rid of George, Buck, and Cro. But I still think that Terry has been keepin us in some of these games so... I dont know if I would get rid of him.
the only person I am confident in keeping is Josh at this point tho. I think Josh has been the only person playin hungry. i been thinkin about tradin Dirk for a few yrs now tho... just never really put any real thot into it... but now... right now at this moment... I'm starting to be irk'd at the idea of him gettin MVP...
You might have to offer more than Dirk. KG does everything better than Dirk except shooting.
I think maybe Dirk + Harris or Dirk + a late first - early second round value pick could do it, if KG really wants to move.
Not sure that any team wants to trade for Dirk right now (no offense, Mavs fans), his star is falling rapidly over the course of this series. Why oh why hasn't he been shooting more from 3?
Lol, he was shootin from the 3... but he must have been crosseyed at the time! shoot even on his 2 ptrs, he was just living in Brickville...
Dirk & the late first/early second, is more doable than letting Dirk & Harris go. I still like the additional point guard from the bench.
because when it's a three that matters, he won't make it. only when the game is all but out of reach and there's no pressure on him whatsoever will he make a three.
And you know what, Harris. For all his skills, he still plays like a re ed 8 year old out there. If it's Dirk/Harris for KG then pull the trigger. We need a distributor PG on this team anyways.
we could get bonzi wells for pretty cheap too...i think he'd be an upgrade over Stackhouse if he could be kept under control.
Matt Barnes would be a good cheap addition but I'd like to see the Spurs go after him. How about Randolph plus something for Dirk? Maybe Outlaw? Would Mavs fans go for that?
I'd like a little more than Outlaw and Randolph for Dirk....we'd be taking on a serious head case there. Their 1st round pick would have to be involved.
And i'd rather have AIDS than have that got Matt Barnes on this team...
True. But a compe ive headcase who's nuts don't shrivel. Plus he's low post and perimeter.
Get Dirk the out of Dallas. Just a 7 foot jump shooter. He is deadly but his defense is a huge liability. His mental pysche is done. Get KG. Get rid of Stackhouse also. He is a turnover machine. Then go at it again.
Yeah his skill set is what we need....but his discipline, weight issues, off court issues, all that bull baggage is alot to consider taking on....unless we also got their high 1st round pick i'm not interested in Zach Randolph.
Harris is a bit overrated. He doesn't do much except take charges, which is dramatic, sure, but I don't see anything from him that says he can help a team to a le, even off the bench.
Harris last night: 8 points, 1 board, 3 assists, 1 steal, 3-5 shooting, but with 3 turnovers. In 20 minutes, I guess that's acceptable, but it doesn't show how outmatched he is.
I really think KG could be the answer for Dallas. Stackhouse looked sharp last night with 9-10 free throws, making more than any other player (and minus that insane "I-can-penetrate-against-3-Warriors-and-score" drive near the end), and Terry was awesome in the first half.
Dirk did a nice job on the O-boards as well, and people are forgetting that. They just need to cut off those crazy Warrior drives to the hoop. Baron... I don't know if anyone can guard him on the Mavs. He is just an impossible match for a team without a lock-down defender. IF the Warriors beat the Mavs, he'll give either Houston or Utah all kinds of problems next round, too.
A few minutes left in the 4th, Dirk got an offensive rebound and had a clear lane to the basket. I can't remember the defender who was nearby (Barnes?) but it was a slight possibility that the guy could have gotten there to maybe contest Dirk.
Instead of being aggresive and taking that to the hole, Dirk threw up the most pussy ass of jumpers and didn't come close to making it....that's when I knew the Mavs would lose the game. That's why they'll never win a le with Dirk.
I worry that Dirk might be getting Brad Lidged this series. Don't know if he'll ever be the same if the Mavs lose. That's why it may be time to sell high and trade him while he still holds superstar value.
exactly. after the Finals last year and then what's happening now, Dirk's psyche may be completely ruined. we've gotta let him go now or we're gonna be stuck with an even more damaged player.
It might just be a city-based thing, too. You could talk a team into taking him and having a new perspective and a fresh city to live in, and it would probably work. Especially if Dirk doesn't have to be the premier scorer or defender on the team.
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