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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    None of which addresses how much Kinetic energy was present in that falling mass that was applied as force to the underlying structure after a known distance of falling.
    I've already conceeded that there was enough Kinetic Energy presented by the upper falling floors to theoretically crush the remaining lower floors under the right conditions, so why beat a dead horse?

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    so why beat a dead horse?


    Kind of an ironic comment considering how many threads there are dedicated to basically the same subject.

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    Note:

    Sheetrock is composed of gypsum.

    General Gypsum Information. Chemical Formula: CaSO4·2(H2O)
    18% sulphur by weight
    http://webmineral.com/data/Gypsum.shtml


    Is it surprising that sulphur was found?

    That type of sulfur wouldn't ellicit sulfidation attack.... only reduced sulfur species like mercaptans, H2S or elemental sulfur could do that...

    Some fireproofing materials, especially those from the 60's and 70's, contained reduced sulfur species... In fact it was considered a contaminant. Not knowing exactly what brand of fireproofing insulation was used on the WTC beams keeps me from speculating, but if I had to guess I would venture to say it contained suficient sulfur to promote sulfidation.

    And nbadan before you conjecture past your audience consider this: one of the units that I tend to in the refinery is the sulfur plant. No one here knows more about sulfur than I do.
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    Where did this re ed thermite theory come from? Thermite is such a niche incindiary, there is no reason to choose this of all explosives. The theory is needlessly complicated when you look at the ridiculous amount of thermite you would need to melt columns. You'd be better off just using plain gunpowder and concussive force than complex melting.

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    Or a plane.

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    A plane?

    What a stupid theory!

    Where's the fun if it were simply planes with terrorist pilots who brought down the WTC?

    How could inquisitive minds burn the amount of brain cells needed to come up with convoluded theories about explosives and missiles, if it was just commercial airplanes what brought down the towers?

    chump, you're nuts!

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    The concerns of your observation are only valid when the fulcrum is fixed. Clearly the fulcrum was also moving (down towards earth) because the gravitational force exceeded and superceded the angular momentum that was generated at the onset of rotation.
    Waaaaay over their heads dude.

    They still can't get the basic laws of motion down, so high-falutin' stuff like this might as well be in Chinese.

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    I've already conceeded that there was enough Kinetic Energy presented by the upper falling floors to theoretically crush the remaining lower floors under the right conditions, so why beat a dead horse?
    I must have missed that one.

    Ok then.

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    It's a plane, no it's Superman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Haven't we had enough of the arguments on WTC and 9/11?
    Or we just going to go on feeding the animals?

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    It wouldn't have taken as much termite, or other extremely hot burning material, as you might think. I've seen estimates of a 3" wide layer of thermite either sprayed or applied to steel beams would have been sufficient.
    Link please.

    Let's not forget the unprecedented power-downs and reports of strange workers in both towers prior to 911.
    Link please

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    As I've said before, you wouldn't have to wire the whole building, just key trusses on key floors.
    But you've said there was explosives on every floor, that that's what we all saw was the explosion of every floor.

    Way to own yourself in your own argument.

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    Let's not forget the unprecedented power-downs and reports of strange workers in both towers prior to 911.
    I imagine in the entire history of the building and all the contrsruction and retrofitting therein there has been a similar power down at least once.

    And the power down and "strange" workers were in one half of one tower. Not both. Why do you try to sneak stuff like this in?

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    But you've said there was explosives on every floor, that that's what we all saw was the explosion of every floor.

    Way to own yourself in your own argument.
    If just one person following this thread shows up at the next International A.N.S.W.E.R. rally, dan has done his job.

    Remember, to him, it's all about "building coalitions based on ideas," not proving facts.

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    Oh well, at the present rate they will have the
    freeway back open before this discussion is
    concluded. Arnold said 10 days it will back in
    operation. And WTC will be rebuilt in a few
    years and on and on and on......

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    Oh well, at the present rate they will have the
    freeway back open before this discussion is
    concluded. Arnold said 10 days it will back in
    operation. And WTC will be rebuilt in a few
    years and on and on and on......
    See...SEE!!! They are rushing the evidence away before anyone can analyze it!!

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