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  1. #101
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    I'm just stating that the amount of criticism and vitriol directed Dirk's way is a little out of proportion. He deserves plenty of criticism for his disappearing act against Golden State, but last I checked, he's humble, he works hard on his game, he's a good teammate, he doesn't demand all the credit when things go well, or throw his teammates under the bus when it doesn't, nor does he draw attention to himself or provide opposing teams with "bulletin board" material...maybe you need to be a bit of an asshole or have an "alpha dog" temperment to lead a team to a le, and Dirk is definitely a nice guy.

    But the bash Dirk incessantly meme is getting a little tiresome, especially when you neglect his entire body of work.
    Dude, Im sorry, I really do like Dirk, but when you are the leagues MVP leading your team to one of the best records in league history and you go out in the 1st round, you are going to get talked about you. Randolph and Carter and those guys are on teams and everyone knows it, Dirk is on a powerhouse. When your the best player on the best team and you fall apart, you are going to get torn a new asshole no matter how nice of a guy you are

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    The Queen Always Protects the King Islymore's Avatar
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    ^I agree.

    When your the best player on the best team and you fall apart, you are going to get torn a new asshole no matter how nice of a guy you are
    And you deserve to be called on it as well.

  3. #103
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    Dude, Im sorry, I really do like Dirk, but when you are the leagues MVP leading your team to one of the best records in league history and you go out in the 1st round, you are going to get talked about you. Randolph and Carter and those guys are on teams and everyone knows it, Dirk is on a powerhouse. When your the best player on the best team and you fall apart, you are going to get torn a new asshole no matter how nice of a guy you are
    Yeah, Dirk deserves to be called out on this latest failure but to totally disregard his career playoff record (success) is ridiculous. He's had great success in the playoffs (particularly in game 7's).

  4. #104
    The Queen Always Protects the King Islymore's Avatar
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    Yeah, Dirk deserves to be called out on this latest failure but to totally disregard his career playoff record (success) is ridiculous. He's had great success in the playoffs (particularly in game 7's).

    i agree with this too. And while it may be great to consider his playoff success in the past - you have to wonder how this most recent failure will factor into his future success/failures. it's a given now that any team in the NBA knows how to expose him now for sure and that many teams will try to throw the same defense at him next season...

    but i'm with most of you guys. i think he needs to be called out on it, but i dont think his past should be forgotten. but... can we continue to think about the past and how it relates to now?

  5. #105
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    i agree with this too. And while it may be great to consider his playoff success in the past - you have to wonder how this most recent failure will factor into his future success/failures. it's a given now that any team in the NBA knows how to expose him now for sure and that many teams will try to throw the same defense at him next season...

    but i'm with most of you guys. i think he needs to be called out on it, but i dont think his past should be forgotten. but... can we continue to think about the past and how it relates to now?
    That's easier said than done. NBA teams already knew this but most don't have the players to be able to do it successfully.

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    hey... you may be right. and i will just have to wait and see how it all plays out... i still think it may be a bigger issue going into next season if he doesnt come up with something...

    and who are you? i been tryna figure it out for the longest. are you on MT?

  7. #107
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    The chances of Dallas getting Jason Kidd or Kobe are obviously next to zero if not completely zero. I don't think New Jersey trades Kidd to Dallas for anything short of Dirk Nowitzki, and then that trade would make no sense for Dallas.

    If what many say is true that Dallas needs some mental toughness, then they need to pursue players that can provide that but are also realistic trade acquisitions or free agents.

    The guys Dallas should go after are guys like Ruben Patterson, Bonzi Wells, and Desmond Mason. Patterson is especially tough mentally and will mix it up inside. The Mavs don't need another shooter. With Dirk, Terry, Stack, and Howard, they have outside shooting covered. Patterson is a small forward that gets offensive rebounds, backs down players in the paint, and runs the floor. He doesn't need plays called for him to make an impact on the game. And, despite his short stature, he could play the power forward spot in a small ball line-up. Bonzi Wells, if he's kept himself in shape, plays big in big games. He rebounds well for a guard, and he mixes it up in the lane as well. Desmond Mason can't shoot well, but he does all the little things to help a team win. All three are solid to very good defenders. They would complement both Dirk and Josh Howard very well, in my opinion. Plus, they would not cower in the face of challenge and defensive pressure in a playoff game.

    The Mavs also need a big combo forward who can play with Dirk if the team went smaller. Someone like Danny Granger would fit the bill, though he's not available. Dallas needs that Shawn Marion, Gerald Wallace guy who can defend the 2-guard and either forward position and still be a force on the glass. Ironically, free agent Matt Barnes would be the type of guy Dallas could use. Perhaps they could work something out to get Hakim Warrick from the Grizzlies or get Eduardo Najera back. Devean George did not work out with that role.

  8. #108
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    That's easier said than done. NBA teams already knew this but most don't have the players to be able to do it successfully.

    The players or the ability to coach that style of play Don Nelson taught his team to employ. Golden State was successful also because his perimeter players played tough on defense and his guards rebounded well. It wouldn't have worked if the Warriors couldn't have rebounded defensively.

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    I would definitely take Matt Barnes @ JAMSTONE

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    hey... you may be right. and i will just have to wait and see how it all plays out... i still think it may be a bigger issue going into next season if he doesnt come up with something...

    and who are you? i been tryna figure it out for the longest. are you on MT?
    You talking about me? I'm not on Mavs Talk.

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    You talking about me? I'm not on Mavs Talk.
    man, you sound like this guy from that board... sorry. just wondering.

  12. #112
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    shawn marrion would be avaible soon

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    Desmond Mason can't shoot well, but he does all the little things to help a team win.
    I think that's basically a done deal right now. Dallas wants him and he wants to go back home to the Dallas area. I like Desmond as well for the things you just said. But I will turn away from the tv when he shoots free throws.

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    Desmond Mason, Patterson etc etc is nice and cute but it doesnt fill our biggest need....A CONSISTENT LOW POST SCORER! None of those guys provide that. We need that more than anything. Zach Randolph, Chris Wilcox, someone of that caliber

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    What would happened to "Harris as the best defensive point guard" project?

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