Suns CANNOT play halfcourt or defense

[J21]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.

i guess scoring 29 points means getting owned

[GrandeDavid]

With no rings and years of disappointment, it's not surprising.

Short, sweet, too the point. Brilliant. Every Suns troll needs to ponder the meaning of this statement.

[GrandeDavid]

Not really. A washed up role player gives you wood, no?

Suns fans, I'm giving you fair warning now. Don't irritate the sleeping giant. Marcus has been bringin it for years. Don't bite off more than you can chew.

[sunsbum]

Suns fans, I'm giving you fair warning now. Don't irritate the sleeping giant. Marcus has been bringin it for years. Don't bite off more than you can chew.

read the entire thread, we disposed of that guy pretty easily after he said the suns didnt draft nash.

[sunsbum]

Yeah - Duncan can score in the 30s all he wants if the next closest guy is Bowen/Parker at 13. Parker goes for 32 in Game 1... scores 20 points less in Game 2 and Spurs lose by 20.... hmmm...

but the Suns were +21 with him on the floor, so his impact was more than what showed up in the stat sheet.

it amazing how the spurs fans just dont get it...dont take everything for face value.. maybe i should have said KT owned your whole team.

[GrandeDavid]

as much as your post count gets you goin. ridiculous.

that washed up role player just owned one of the greatest centers of all time.

29 points, 12 rebounds while his teammates sleepwalked. And that's 31 points and 13.5 rebounds for the series...and countless blocks.

Kurt Thomas had 12 points, 4 rebounds and 0 blocks.

The team had an off night. Were the Spurs really supposed to keep bending Phoenix over in their house? Oh, the trend will start over again early next week, but the Law of Probability presumes that Phoenix will win one game from time to time against San Antonio in Phoenix.

Who owned whom? Saturday will be a different story.

Can people be banned for being stupid instead of insulting?

[cherylsteele]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?

Yeah...he shut down Duncan.

[Xylus]

Like I said, already. Kurt Thomas doesn't have to shut Tim Duncan down. All he has to do is provide good single-coverage defense, so that the rest of our team can defend the shooters. Duncan is great at passing out--this way, Duncan can beat us but everyone else is locked down.

It'll be interesting to see how the Spurs respond on Saturday.

[GrandeDavid]

I'm in China, so I can't watch the game... I just know that 32 out of Parker without him getting in the lane all that much is not gonna happen every game.

Have you been to any local professional games in China? Just curious, no smack intended!

Also, do you think that basketball is really a blossoming sport in China among the masses as the NBA likes to claim?

[sunsbum]

29 points, 12 rebounds while his teammates sleepwalked. And that's 31 points and 13.5 rebounds for the series...and countless blocks.

Kurt Thomas had 12 points, 4 rebounds and 0 blocks.

The team had an off night. Were the Spurs really supposed to keep bending Phoenix over in their house? Oh, the trend will start over again early next week, but the Law of Probability presumes that Phoenix will win one game from time to time against San Antonio in Phoenix.

Who owned whom? Saturday will be a different story.

Can people be banned for being stupid instead of insulting?

my my you have a thick skull. let me put it this way.....remember what you did in 2005 to amare? let him get his and shut the rest of the boys down...thats exactly what we did to you last night and KT is the reason we were able to do that.

our defense was outstanding wether you want to give us credit or not. pop did and quite frankly thats enough for me.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

after this year

Spurs 3

Suns 1

I would love to see my boy Nash earn a le now that my team is out!! Go Suns Go!!!!!

[GrandeDavid]

There's a lot to dissect from Game 2. The Suns move to Thomas made them more effective in the defensive halfcourt. The Spurs lack of enthusiasm made it all the easier for the Suns to look effective in that setting. I give the Suns credit, but I also think the Spurs have only themselves to blame.

I don't think that we can expect the norm in this series to be a complete shutdown of the Spurs offense while the Suns shoot 63% over 3 quarters of the game. That shooting percentage in quarters 2-4, as much as anything, gives me solace that Game 2 was more of an anomaly than an omen. As great as the Suns are offensively, they're not going to shoot that well over long stretches of this series. If they do, they'll win the series easily.

I also don't think it's realistic to think that the Spurs are going to turn it over the way they did in Game 2, either. In game 1, there were bunches of offensive fouls that accounted for Spurs turnovers. I can take those, since they tend to suggest aggressiveness. While some of the Spurs turnovers in Game 2 were offensive fouls, a bunch of them were passes to nobody (Parker) and things like that. Those are unforced errors. Again, if the Spurs are going to turn it over like that, they're going to lose; but I don't think they're going to turn it over like that.

I think the Spurs lack of aggression on the offensive end -- and more specifically, the willingness to dump the ball into Duncan and wait for things to happen -- hurt them as the game wore on last night. Hopefully, Popovich will recognize that.

Props to you. Perfect analysis.

[GrandeDavid]

my my you have a thick skull. let me put it this way.....remember what you did in 2005 to amare? let him get his and shut the rest of the boys down...thats exactly what we did to you last night and KT is the reason we were able to do that.

our defense was outstanding wether you want to give us credit or not. pop did and quite frankly thats enough for me.

Kid, I didn't watch the game as I'm overseas at the moment, but I know the Spurs all too well and I certainly know that one old, rugged role player will not do the job one on one against Duncan for an entire game, much less an entire series. So save your pointless "thick skull" smack.

I never EVER discredited Phoenix's play. NOT ONCE!!! On the contrary, I think Phoenix played an outstanding game. On the coin, I know the Spurs as well as anybody, and I know that they played a miserable game, collectively. The moons were aligned, whatever, and Manu and Tony were flat. They shot 56% from the foul line. They passed up shots they normally take.

I give Phoenix all the credit in the world for that!

But I also know that San Antonio is masterful at adjustments and will be back with force on Saturday.

yourself.

[florige]

Kurt thomas scares you doesnt he?

Yeah just like he scared us when he played for the Knicks in 99. Puulease Subs fans... At least Dallas fans sometimes had a valid argu ment.

[sunsbum]

Kid, I didn't watch the game as I'm overseas at the moment, but I know the Spurs all too well and I certainly know that one old, rugged role player will not do the job one on one against Duncan for an entire game, much less an entire series. So save your pointless "thick skull" smack.

I never EVER discredited Phoenix's play. NOT ONCE!!! On the contrary, I think Phoenix played an outstanding game. On the coin, I know the Spurs as well as anybody, and I know that they played a miserable game, collectively. The moons were aligned, whatever, and Manu and Tony were flat. They shot 56% from the foul line. They passed up shots they normally take.

I give Phoenix all the credit in the world for that!

But I also know that San Antonio is masterful at adjustments and will be back with force on Saturday.

yourself.

you havent even seen the game?

[dbreiden83080]

everyone sucked or the suns nutted up and played some D?

you guys squeaked out game 1 and we dominate you at YOUR game tonight..

but this team is the same as 2005 right....no defense. no half court game.

You dominated a game that you had to have, you go down 0-2 heading to SA and your season is OVER. If the Spurs lost a close game 1 there is no chance in they get blownout in game 2. Suns made some adjustments that worked. You know how many times that has happened to the Spurs and they win the series in the end. Spurs are going home tied at 1 and Manu has yet to get going. You really think you are going hold him down for both games in SA.

[kps0001]

On the contrary, I think Phoenix played an outstanding game. On the coin, I know the Spurs as well as anybody, and I know that they played a miserable game, collectively. The moons were aligned, whatever, and Manu and Tony were flat. They shot 56% from the foul line. They passed up shots they normally take.

I give Phoenix all the credit in the world for that!

But I also know that San Antonio is masterful at adjustments and will be back with force on Saturday.

yourself.

That is kind of a contradiction there. You say you give Phoenix all the credit but then you state that the moons were aligned and Manu and Tony were flat.

I think it was a direct result of the defense and intensity we brought that took them out of their game and having nothing do with the moons being aligned.

Was Phoenix not as masterful last night at making adjustments? If you are gonna give credit don't give em 50%.

[dbreiden83080]

That is kind of a contradiction there. You say you give Phoenix all the credit but then you state that the moons were aligned and Manu and Tony were flat.

I think it was a direct result of the defense and intensity we brought that took them out of their game and having nothing do with the moons being aligned.

Was Phoenix not as masterful last night at making adjustments? If you are gonna give credit don't give em 50%.

Suns played well and the Spurs in the 2nd half looked like they were laying down. It was a 7pt game at the half and Suns came out great in the 3rd and the Spurs bascially were satisfied to go home 1-1. The next 2 games i expect to both be close great games.

[DarrinS]

That is kind of a contradiction there. You say you give Phoenix all the credit but then you state that the moons were aligned and Manu and Tony were flat.

I think it was a direct result of the defense and intensity we brought that took them out of their game and having nothing do with the moons being aligned.

Was Phoenix not as masterful last night at making adjustments? If you are gonna give credit don't give em 50%.

They deserve 100% credit for keeping all Spurs (not named Tim) out of the paint and forcing them to be jump shooters. Beyond that, the missed jump shots were still makeable, they just didn't go in. How's that?

[kps0001]

Suns played well and the Spurs in the 2nd half looked like they were laying down. It was a 7pt game at the half and Suns came out great in the 3rd and the Spurs bascially were satisfied to go home 1-1. The next 2 games i expect to both be close great games.

We played bad offensively in the first half. I think we shot like 26%. We played our style of game but the shots weren't fallng. Luckily that changed. If you believe the Spurs were satisfied to go home 1-1 I would be shocked. The Spurs are one of the best at jumping on a team when they are down and going for the jugular. I was really shocked at the difference on the scoreboard and feel every game through game 7 will be close great games.

...and speaking of San Antonio being so great at adjustments how did that work out for you when Pop decided he was gonna try to match us in small ball after Timmy got his 4th foul and had to sit for a while? We actually got to see the way Diaw should play every game and the Spurs had no answer.

[kps0001]

They deserve 100% credit for keeping all Spurs (not named Tim) out of the paint and forcing them to be jump shooters. Beyond that, the missed jump shots were still makeable, they just didn't go in. How's that?

I don't know really; a blow to the confidence? a little tired from the run n gun style? Its hard to say but I think it has more to do with what happened in the game that them just being off or the moon alignement. I do think that fall by Parker rattled his noggin again pretty good and hurt his arm a little bit and affected his play. Could be wrong though but he is French so I don't know if he is the toughest player out there.

[Doug Collins]

A new poster coming to the board who talks trash ONLY after a win... geez act like your team won something before..oh wait they haven't.

Capt. Mike?

[101A]

Suns fans, a bit of advice:

STFU!

Your beloved team won a game convincingly, we get that. Please act like you've been here before! These are the playoffs. These are the Spurs in the playoffs. Trust me, the people on this board have seen the Spurs in the playoffs FAR more than you have in the past 10 years! Your experience has been 5 or 6 games, and then, well, out.

The Spurs periodically lay an egg in a series; they often do that against teams they feel, rightly or wrongly, "comfortable" with. Twice this lackadaisical at ude has cost them series against teams: last year against the Mavs in game 2 the Spurs messed up bad, and in '04 against the Lakers the Spurs gave away two in LA; feeling confident they could hold homecourt. ALL other times, the Spurs have gotten whipped, then come back and regained dominance. I don't know what caused the Spurs to take Phoenix lightly (could be the 5 game playoff winning streak they were riding IN Phoenix; it could be they believed their press, who knows), but the net result is; until it happens again, and Phoenix shows some level of consistency against the Spurs, you, Suns fan, are not going to get satisfaction from us Spurs fans. The Spurs have owned the Suns for too long, and we have all lived through Spurs games like this against lesser opponents in the playoffs for years.

We just went through it in rd 1 with Nuggets fan; who thought they had the Spurs RIGHT where they wanted them; we've endured it ALL year from Mavericks fan, last year it was Sacramento, before that Denver and Seattle, in '03 it was you, Suns fan, who had a team steal one in San Antonio!

It was a game, a game that Phoenix played great in, and beat the Spurs by 20 points. BUT, the Spurs now hold a home-court advantage in this series against a team that hasn't won here in a long time, and whom the Spurs have dominated in the W/L for years now. I, and many Spurs fans, are reasonably confident that this series is going to turn out to our liking, frankly, despite the game last night. So talk smack if you must, but understand, we strongly feel history is on our side. Duncan is, after all, 4-0 in series against the Suns.

[dreamcastrocks]

We played bad offensively in the first half. I think we shot like 26%.

Everyone kept saying, but it wasn't true. If you remember, the Suns were up 10, early in the game. There was only a 6 minute stretch in the 1st quarter when the Suns were shooting terribly. They did shoot a ton of shots, but the 1st half of the 1st quarter was great. They had about 17 points.

Then ended the 1st Quarter 6 for 24 or so but it wasn't that bad for the entire quarter.

[Doug Collins]

Suns had to win the game and played like it. Spurs played like they typically do when they decide to go into "vagina mode" and play like absolute garbage. I give the Suns credit for hitting their shots and outplaying the Spurs. But if PHX loses that game the series is over, so I don't find it shocking that they won by 20.