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Exactly.As much as we, for selfish reasons, would love to see no suspensions, the league can't very well sell that to the rest of the league and retain credibility.
I don't make those decisions, the NBA does. I just put what I think is going to happen. I guess we'll find out tomorrow...
Exactly.As much as we, for selfish reasons, would love to see no suspensions, the league can't very well sell that to the rest of the league and retain credibility.
Too bad they didn't call it. It pisses me off that they've been doing that more this year. They think they are being cute and this is the result. I expect to see a clear directive sent to the officials this summer that they are to blow the whistle on any physical contact on intentional fouls. When your adrenaline is flowing and you are desperate to get the clock stopped in a big game it's going to happen. I don't like to guess what Horry was thinking, but since it seems rather out of character to do something willfully dirty, and I don't recall his having any particular reason to be frustrated, it's possible that's all it was.
Obviously I don't agree with that analogy. For one thing, in your hypothetical I would actually have been harmed, by property loss and personal injury; I don't see how Stoudamire and Diaw leaving the bench harmed the Spurs. Yes, the rule may have been broken but in this situation I think the rule is broad enough to allow some leeway, and I say again that I don't care if the league doesn't suspend Stoudamire and Diaw. It's my opinion; you don't have to agree with it.So would you still feel that way if people came to your house, robbed you, then shot you but the court decides that they don't mind if the perpetrators get away with a broken rule?
I don't think Amare will get away without being suspended, it's just way to obvious that he left the bench. I think they will let Diaw slide on this one. I'm sure Stern doesn't want this series being decided because of this play.
Do you really want to spend your time and money supporting a league that breaks it's own rules and skews the game one way or another? Not suspending Stoudemire and Diaw at the least would make all of the previous suspensions for rule violations unjust. Maybe it's me, but I don't want to waste my time supporting a fixed league.
So rules and laws should only be enforced if someone is harmed? So the drunk driver who get's pulled over before he kills someone should be set free with no punishment?
....lol...we live in USA...George ing Bush does this everyday. You better get the outta the good ol US of A.
Apparently, you've never been on a waxed hardwood floor. I got hit in a similar fashion as I was crossing half court by someone of comparable height/size difference as Horry to Nash and I slid about 15 feet. I was running so fast that my feet pretty much lifted off the ground and I slid half on my side and half on my ass until the momentum finally stopped.
If those boards weren't there, I'm pretty sure Nash would have done the same since he was forced to leave his feet. However, Nash was falling backwards (to brace himself?) while my momentum actually took me from half court to the FT line on the other side. I didn't see the guy coming though (more of a blindside hit) so if Nash saw Horry, he probably could have slowed up more.
As I mentioned before, it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it. I'm not going to analogize criminal statutes to NBA rules, as I consider that to be apples and oranges.
I don't know about anyone else, but I never suggested that he wasn't hit very very hard. However I think he made the same motion to sell the contact that he's done a thousand times this season, which made the foul look like a death blow. Since we all reacted to it, and since Nash wasn't actually dead, the facts fit what I thought I saw at the time. Anyone that watches him knows that he's added taking charges and drawing contact to his rep this year. I'll have to go back and watch it to verify that I saw what I saw, but I recognized the motion immediately. Doesn't mean he didn't get fouled. Doesn't mean Horry doesn't deserve a suspension. I'm talking about what he did and why his teammates reacted immediately in his defense, which may end up costing them.
The NBA has had plenty of opportunities to amend this stupid rule, they didn't so now people will probably get suspended, and the series will be questioned. Maybe after this they will decide to fix the problem. But to just throw out the rules to keep the series good would in the face of anyone suspended by this rule.
Suns need either Amare OR Diaw... but if both are gone then it spells trouble. Pat Burke and Sean Marks time!
Talk basketball or take that to the political forum. This ain't the place.
Well I hope Amare doesn't get suspended. Even though he's not as powerful as he was in 2005, he's still awesome to watch and it would be a shame if he got suspended.
That's what I said earlier Amare and the guy that takes Amare's place could be gone.
And that makes it right? I can't do anything about where I was born and live, but I can control what entertainment I support. Life is unfair, I understand that as much as anyone, but changing and ignoring rules and laws for the benefit of a few is wrong. Sports are about the last venue on earth where people can expect a fair playing field, and now the NBA is progressing towards taking that way from professional basketball fans. It's a sad day, because once sports become muddied by politics and corruption - there's nothing left.
OK I follow you. Yes Nash has become great at getting that charge and drawing contact.
Latest Daily Dime from Marc Stein:
"First things first, since it's obviously what everyone wants to know about: The suspension question. By the letter of the law, Stoudemire and Boris Diaw have to be hit with one-game suspensions for leaving the bench after Horry cracked Nash. This is a virtually iron-clad NBA rule, except for the time back in 2002 that Doug Christie was attacked in the tunnel by Rick Fox in a Lakers-Kings exhibition game and several Kings players left the bench to assist him. The league ruled that time that no one, in the heat of the moment, knew exactly who Christie was tangling with, resulting in some unexpected pardons. In this case, Stoudemire clearly strayed into the court for a brief moment and even Suns coach Mike D'Antoni couldn't stifle a postgame laugh when Phoenix tried to suggest that Stoudemire was heading to the scorer's table to check in after the foul.
However . . .
Stoudemire and Diaw never made it near the scrum, as Suns assistant coaches scrambled them back to the bench. Nor did Monday's incident ever become an actual brawl, with referees Joe DeRosa and Javie getting between Nash and Horry before it could escalate. There is also a growing perception, most of all, that Bowen was shown a good deal of leniency by the league office after being accused of intentionally kicking a dunking Stoudemire in Game 2 and kneeing Nash in Game 3 . . . and going unpunished in both cases. Doesn't the league have to balance that against the notion of "staying consistent" on leaving-the-bench suspensions?"
in relation to importance to society, yes. But rules are rules and all rules are inherently the same in nature.
i was just making a joke. I don't know about politics and I ain't gonna pretend I do.
Sorry for my lame attempt at humor, once again. Damn I suck at jokes.
Liberals are ruining this country.
"Conservative ideals" would let the players settle it on the court, but in the world where everyone gets a medal for participating, we need to have "rules are rules" arguments.
And yes, I am a moderate.
No worries. I just don't want the discussion to degenerate into fights over politics or bad calls. I'd still rather talk about actual basketball than rules interpretations or crime scene investigation, but it beats the out of complaining about calls.
but should Amare suffer for his stupidity?
Again, knock off the political . This ain't the ing place.
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