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    Yeah right, look at the post history of any serious Spurs fan here, the players always take the blame. Only bandwagoners, as you may be familiar with, go blaming the refs and Stern.
    I'm hardly a bandwaogner. I've been a Suns fan since the Barkley years.

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    You can tell they were about to tear into each other, but they new the clock was about to start again, and they put they primal passions aside for the sake of the game at that point. The Horry incident took place at the very end of the game.
    So you're saying that they could have been stupid and made a possible bad situation worse but they kept their heads. You do realize that Amare and Boris did the exact opposite, right?

    You can tell they were about to tear into each other,
    So in addition to you being the interpreter of League rules, you are also clairvoyant?

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    Because, I've seen incidents similar to this in which the rule was NOT enforced. It's not as ironclad as Stern would have you be brainwashed to believe.
    And I am waiting for a single example of a player leaving the vicinity of the bench during an altercation and not being suspended by the NBA. Since it's so common, you should have no problem finding an example of two players actually running onto the court during an altercation and not being suspended.

    There's no brainwashing involved. It's never happened. You wanted your team to be the first team in the history of this rule not to have to play by it. That's called cheating where I come from, and you still haven't explained why you, as a Suns fan, want your team not to have to play by the rules that everyone else has to play by.

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    I'm hardly a bandwaogner. I've been a Suns fan since the Barkley years.
    Wow, a real greybeard, huh?

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    So you're admitting there was no altercation.

    Good boy.
    Pre-altercation, altercation, what's the dif? The supposed unflinching rule is there to prevent altercations or the exacerbation of such. Duncan stepping onto the court then was every bit as potentially volatile as when Amare and Diaw put their tippy toes on the sideline near the end of the game.

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    And I am waiting for a single example of a player leaving the vicinity of the bench during an altercation and not being suspended by the NBA. Since it's so common, you should have no problem finding an example of two players actually running onto the court during an altercation and not being suspended.
    Pull out some of your old playoffs tapes. I know you'll come by plenty. The onus is on you; you've got nothing to lose, right?

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    Pre-altercation, altercation, what's the dif?
    Um, probably the fact that pre-altercation isn't in the rules?

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    Pre-altercation, altercation, what's the dif? The supposed unflinching rule is there to prevent altercations or the exacerbation of such. Duncan stepping onto the court then was every bit as potentially volatile as when Amare and Diaw put their tippy toes on the sideline near the end of the game.
    Are you high? They ran from the bench on to the floor. They didn't trip over the line or take 2 steps and then stop.

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    Pre-altercation, altercation, what's the dif?
    The rule doesn't say pre-altercation.
    Duncan stepping onto the court then was every bit as potentially volatile as when Amare and Diaw put their tippy toes on the sideline near the end of the game.
    They did more than that. I don't see why you have to lie.

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    Pull out some of your old playoffs tapes. I know you'll come by plenty. The onus is on you; you've got nothing to lose, right?
    Sure, the onus is on us to prove YOUR point. Wow.

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    Pull out some of your old playoffs tapes. I know you'll come by plenty. The onus is on you; you've got nothing to lose, right?
    Actually the onus is squarely on you since you want this rule to be ignored.

    What have you got to lose?

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    Pull out some of your old playoffs tapes. I know you'll come by plenty. The onus is on you; you've got nothing to lose, right?
    Nope. Nothing. The burden of proof is on you since you seem to be an NBA fight archive expert. Though you haven't produced one shred of proof.

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    The rule doesn't say pre-altercation.They did more than that. I don't see why you have to lie.
    I'm not lying, just pointing out the lunacy and hypocracy of Stern's decision.

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    Nope. Nothing. The burden of proof is on you since you seem to be an NBA fight archive expert. Though you haven't produced one shred of proof.
    My memory is my archive.

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    Actually the onus is squarely on you since you want this rule to be ignored.

    What have you got to lose?
    I don't expect the rule to be ignored, just enforced fairly and/or consistently.

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    I'm not lying, just pointing out the lunacy and hypocracy of Stern's decision.
    So prove it. That's all you have to do. Produce one clip or even a link to one. I'm sure we'll all be happy to view it.

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    Pre-altercation, altercation, what's the dif?
    So you were caught in a lie and you aren't man enough to admit it? The rule clearly states "during an altercation" It could only be a "pre-altercation" if an altercation later happened. It didn't. Therefore it was a "pre-continuation of the game".

    The supposed unflinching rule is there to prevent altercations or the exacerbation of such. Duncan stepping onto the court then was every bit as potentially volatile as when Amare and Diaw put their tippy toes on the sideline near the end of the game.
    So now, in addition to wanting to cheat, you are going to lie even further? Amare and Diaw ran onto the court. Amare was outside the coach's box past D'Antoni and Nash when the official told him to get back to his seat.

    And I thought you said the rule wasn't unflinching. Which is it?

    Oh by the way: Why do you think that your team doesn't have to follow the rules that every other team has to follow?

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    I'm not lying, just pointing out the lunacy and hypocracy of Stern's decision.
    No, you clearly lied about what Amare and Boris did.

    Why did you lie?

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    I'm not lying, just pointing out the lunacy and hypocracy of Stern's decision.
    If you put Hypocrite and lunatic together, you get "hypolunatic." What's underneath the moon? The Earth. Welcome to it.

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    My memory is my archive.
    Great retort, Johnny Mnemonic

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    I don't expect the rule to be ignored, just enforced fairly and/or consistently.
    It was.

    no use whining about that.

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    So prove it. That's all you have to do. Produce one clip or even a link to one. I'm sure we'll all be happy to view it.
    Oh, I'm sure there are sites that saves dozens of clips of players walking onto the court.

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    If you put Hypocrite and lunatic together, you get "hypolunatic." What's underneath the moon? The Earth. Welcome to it.

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    It was.

    no use whining about that.
    There is where we part ways. It wasn't.

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    Pull out some of your old playoffs tapes. I know you'll come by plenty. The onus is on you; you've got nothing to lose, right?
    But you said it happens all the time. I say that there are zero examples of it. It's not on me at all; you need to show me evidence, otherwise you want your team to get away with something that I say no other team has ever been allowed to get away with.

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