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Arenas and Caron Butler played in both Spurs/Wizards games this year.
Antawn Jamison also played in the game in San Antonio.
I'm guessing the Spurs faced the Wiz with at least a healthy Arenas.
Arenas and Caron Butler played in both Spurs/Wizards games this year.
Antawn Jamison also played in the game in San Antonio.
And in both games they held the Wiz to less points than the Cavs did in any game of the series
Duncan may be "better" according to Spurs fans, I myself would call them equally great, however whereas Duncan is focused on playing in the post 75% of the time, James is all over the court so he can have a larger impact on the game. However, you would have to be crazy to dismiss Duncan in this series- I know he will get his points, but the most anticipated matchup in my mind is Duncan guarding the basket defensively when Lebron drives the lane. Everybody remembers what happened at the start of the season when Lebron took Duncan to school, whether or not Duncan can stop Lebron from finishing will tell everybody alot about how this series is going to go.
So basically once the Spurs shook off their traditional funk to start the season, kicked Beno to the back of the bench, and the Spurs moved Manu back to his traditional role, they rolled through the Cavs' tough playoff compe ion as well as the teams who the Cavs struggled against this season.
Learn to read, I didnt say he was better, I said he impacts the game on a bigger level
What?
What?
Wow. Just wow.
Duncan is a force at both ends of the court.
Welcome to basketball, Cav Fan.
The Cavaliers did go 4-0 against Milwaukee, however.
Would you guys be this disparaging if it was Detroit you were playing?
Cav fan needs to understand that LeBron can score 35 a game, but if the rest of the team doesn't crack 50 combined, Spurs win most nights.
I guess LeBron needs to average a triple double along with his 35 a night.
After watching them play the Cavs yesThe Cavaliers did go 4-0 against Milwaukee, however.
Would you guys be this disparaging if it was Detroit you were playing?
The hype wouldn't be making us nauseous if Detroit were playing.The Cavaliers did go 4-0 against Milwaukee, however.
Would you guys be this disparaging if it was Detroit you were playing?
Would you pick the Bucks over the Spurs in the playoffs?
I still don't think there is a player in the association who has the impact on both ends of the floor that Duncan has. That's the thing that makes him great. He's an offensive force who commands doubles and compels opponents to manufacture defenses to deal with him -- his presence makes him a great offensive force, whether he's scoring or passing or just serving as a conduit for the rest of the Spurs offense. That doesn't make Timmy unique, though.
What does make him unique is his ability to change games on the defensive end. It's not just his shot blocking, though his shot blocking is a huge part of his defensive prowess. I think Tim is among the best at altering shots or deterring shots as well. On top of all of that, Tim rarely allows himself to be out of position -- when he is, he plays smartly and offers token contests of shots without committing fouls. Lebron's much-heralded dunk is a prime example of that phenomenon.
There are other players in the league who are offensive forces. There are other players in the league who are defensive forces. But other than Tim Duncan, there are no players in the league who so perfectly combine those two things.
Given that he is talking about offense, it really isn't that far-fetched to talk about well, offense, instead of point differential, no?
And if you want to talk about point differential of opponents, I believe both the Nets and the Wizards (and that is including games with Arenas and Butler) were under zero, and Detriot is +4.2, far less than the Suns.
Seriously, do you know what you are talking about when you post? Because you tend to shift the subject a LOT during the same threads, changing your criteria and jumping to new arguments without ever acknowledging how wrong you were in the previous one. The best part is that the new "argument" you jumped into is so flawed, it sounds almost like you are trying to prove against your own point (see quoted post and response).
No, he doesnt know what he is talking about at all.
Of course not. But the transitive property doesn't apply in any case, whether it's you guys against the Bucks (or us), or you guys against Cleveland's playoff opponents. This is a game of matchups.
Well, getting other teammates involved in the scoring against Detroit didn't seem to be a problem, did it?? It isn't like Cleveland has a bunch of amatuers out there next to Lebron, it isn't like these guys are the worst offensive team in the league and none of their shots are going to fall. Cleveland dominated and controlled Detroit, a very good team in their own right. Guys like Gibson, Z, Marshall, and others are going to knock down shots. When Lebron gets to the basket, these guys are going to be getting wide open looks. In any case, the Cavs have already beaten the Spurs once this season in a game where Lebron only scored 19, so I guess there goes your argument.
I was just noting that none of San Antonio's opponents in the playoffs thus far are any good on defense. I simply added the points scored in my post to make them visible to the rest of the board for reference.
It certainly applies as to the importance of a couple of regular season losses.
In all the NBA i can think of only a handful of defenders I would rather have defending Lebron than Bowen. There is a whole slew of people i would rather have defend Duncan than Snatchpatch, Lurch or Sideshow.
We matchup better with James than you do with Duncan. This is before you start talking about Parker and Ginobilli.
And it was pointed out that youre notations didnt show .
leave statistical analysis to people who know what theyre doing. KK thanks.
If baskets were placed all over the court, I'd expect this to mean more than it does.
The Cavs beat the Spurs in the second game of a back to back after an exhausting victory the night before with a hobbled Parker and in a home game that featured 25 minutes of Matt Bonner. Lest we forget that Beno Udrih was actually in the rotation and Pop had yet to make the traditional switch in the starting lineup between Ginobili and his backup. The Spurs once went 10-10 to start a season and won a championship at the end. The early regular season matchups are meaningless except to those who need to hype this series as something other than the Spurs rolling through yet another inferior Eastern Conference team on their way to their 4th le.
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