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  1. #101
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    Eric Williams can be a solid contributor and score double digits, rebound some, play a little D, depending on his role. Statistically EW offensively has produced higher numbers than Bowen. Stats alone do not make one > than a best-in-class role-player/defender/stopper.

    Bruce has won numerous All NBA defensive awards, including 1st Team last year.

    Eric participated in the Schick Rookie Game.

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    Chump, I'd rather Dalembert at his current salary than Rasho.
    I'd rather have any decent player on their rookie salary -- if you actually have a point there let us in on it.
    I told you why Dalembert fell out of favor.
    Actually, you didn't go into any detail. Can you tell us why he gets DNP-CDs while Josh Davis gets all his minutes?
    Stop taking tidbits out of context and pretending to have a point about something that was already explained to you.
    Stop acting like every player is available at any time. You can't decern the NBA from your fantasy league and it shows in every one of your takes.
    Virtually all of Rasho's numbers are DOWN this year. His defense has not been much better, either.
    Since you haven['t watched all the games, consider yourself ignorant of his overall D, which is better. As for the other numbers -- all of Parker's numbers are down (2nd year in a row, BTW), all of Barry's numbers are down. Where are their "enigma" posts from you? Which rookie do you now want instead of them?
    Shouldn't Rasho be better in his second year with the Spurs?
    His D is better; his other nubmers are close enough that they'll most likely be the same by year's end.
    P.S.

    And Eric Williams > Bruce Bowen
    P.S.

    B.S.

    Saying it a billion times doesn't make it true. The next time Eric shuts down a PG, SG and SF in the same game will be the first time.

    He really makes the Nets a winner, doesn't he?

    I am sick and tired of idiots who can only see what players are not instead of what they are.

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    How many All defensive team awards does Erick Williams have??


    salute


    Good talk pasty.

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    Rasho sucks
    name one you can get better??


    (foolishly waits for answer)

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    Mihm>Rasho
    For all of Rasho's weaknesses, he isn't a stiff.

    This is what I would call working to your advantage. If Rasho were to be aggressive and take it to the hole, then there will be another 7 footers missed FTs that we would be complaining about.
    Or he'd actually get some easy baskets. He sometimes takes easy baskets and makes them hard. He's not shooting 44% because he's a poor jump shooter. 44% isn't very good for a center, and his shooting percentage is that low simply because he doesn't finish at the rim very well. His lack of aggression turns easy baskets into misses sometimes.

    If they wanted a low post scorer, they wouldve gone after Tazer boy.

    Once again, thank god they didndt.
    Nobody's asking him to be a great low post scorer. He just needs to finish the opportunities that come his way.

    his game has improved immensely since last season....
    Well, I'm generally happy with is contributions and I'm glad he's a Spur, but that's a stretch. Exactly how has he improved immensely? I think he's essentially the same player he was last season.

    I can only see this guy getting better...
    What you see now is basically what you're going to get for the next few seasons.

    move on Rasho bashers !!!!
    I'm not bashing. I'm pointing out a weakness.

    [quote]I guess many people would have preferred to hire Olowakandi...who was also available at the time of Rasho's signing.....Boy, he is working out great in Minnesota[/quote

    I don't think anyone is advocating that.

    Shouldn't Rasho be better in his second year with the Spurs?
    For better or for worse, Rasho is the same player that he was last season. I know you judge most of your opinions on numbers, but they really don't tell the whole story.

    And Eric Williams > Bruce Bowen
    Simply false. Eric Williams is a scrub. Bruce Bowen is a poor offensive player with top defensive skills.

    And Rasho should do better than he did last year.
    As much as you would like to have all-stars at every position, it just isn't going to happen. The Rasho you see now is the Rasho you're going to see in two years. He is what he is. And he's very average. But he does a good job defensively and can hit an open jump shot. For what was available at the time, he wasn't a bad pickup.

    He's average. Deal with it.

    I told you why Dalembert fell out of favor.
    He fell out of favor because he wasn't playing well.

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    For all of Rasho's weaknesses, he isn't a stiff.
    I'd say he technically is a stiff -- but pretty much the best stiff in the league. If Dalembert or Swift or any of those underachievers worked half as hard as Rasho, they'd be All-Stars. How long should we wait for these guys to put together a decent season and how much should they be paid while we're waiting for them to finally get it?

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    I'd say he technically is a stiff -- but pretty much the best stiff in the league. If Dalembert or Swift or any of those underachievers worked half as hard as Rasho, they'd be All-Stars. How long should we wait for these guys to put together a decent season and how much should they be paid while we're waiting for them to finally get it?
    I don't know. I guess it's all about how you define 'stiff.' Rasho actually has some talent and almost average mobility for a center. But if you want to call him the best stiff in the league, I guess that's about the same as me calling him a non-stiff and very average center.

    I agree that there are several bigs with more raw athleticism and talent. Both Swift and Dalembert are good examples, and Tyson Chandler also comes to mind. They certainly haven't seized the opportunities presented to them, and they probably will never live up to their potential.

    All things considered, Rasho is a decent fit. There are many better options out there, but he works well and doesn't cost a ton.

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    ...let's just be thankful Rasho is injury-free. And the Spurs signed him instead of Kandi(0 pts against the Mavs tonight).

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    We should all be resigned to the fact that Rasho will be Rasho, he's not an offensive or defensive juggernaut, he blocks some shots, effects others. He's a big white guy who feels up the paint and if he's hot he'll make his man pay for not guarding him on the outside. Other than that i have no misguided belief that he can give more than he's giving.

    For some reason i'm thinking Rasho is playing better this year than last, even though some are saying his stats are down. Maybe he's not making petty little mistakes like he did at the beginning of last year.

    And to the person who asked if the Spurs record would be better, same or worse without Rasho i say worse, 4 on 5 that would be 0-19

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    Once again.

    Your not gonna find anyone better that IS available.

    So the ing about him pretty much should be reigned into his game to game play.


    Rasho has been in a bit of a funk lately.

    But his defensive play has been drastically improved over last year.

    Whats funny, in Minnesota he was a 52% FG shooter, and a pretty good outside shot.
    Here, his shot is off and just OK.

    If he could shoot the 52% he did in Minny, he would be a 10 and 9 guy.

    WIch, is what I thought he would be.

    IMO, he should get more plays run for him, and let him get out of it.

    Its hard to break out of it getting 9 shots one night, then another getting 2.

    He should get 8 shots every game, if he makes half he gets 8 points little over hes in double figures.

    Id rather him get those shots than an off balanced Brent Barry three pointer.

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    wow for Rasho's height, he should dominate the boards and get more freakin blocks.

    He's so freakin soft, he has no heart, de doesn't look like he wants to be a winner.

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    What did the front office think they were getting?

    Rasho makes the rest of the Spurs look tough and intense.

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