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Another bit of good news: Manu not playing for the national team.
If this is seriously a "worst case scenario," the Spurs have it pretty good.
Even taking the glass-half-empty approach, the doom and gloom fears should go on ice until after the draft...
Another bit of good news: Manu not playing for the national team.
If this is seriously a "worst case scenario," the Spurs have it pretty good.
When you have less than 12 players under contract, you had to add min salaries to fill the roster when you compute the team salary. Spurs will be at $46M.
You are preaching to the choir. I was against The 2001 Plan and The 2003 Plan. I'm also against The 2008 Plan.
But if a fan doesn't think a plan exists, that fan hasn't followed the Spurs cap situation for that long. Some of us have seen the writing on the wall for The 2008 Plan for a couple years now.
You'd think the Spurs would scrap a plan to retain players who have a history of winning championships on the Spurs, but it hasn't worked that way to date.
Was a no-brainer he would do it after the way he played in the post season.
Adios- Finley will likely do the same.
Vaya Con Dios- Scola case is very complicate with some rumors than he can stay in europe forever.
C'est la vie...il ne big deal pas- Mahinmi injured making his evaluation by Spurs staff more difficult.
Hopefully he'll trade for Beno and Karaulov.- Presti leaving.
The only thing besides Oberto that concerns me...I think he has quite a bit to do with the Spurs much improved offense during the 3 les in 5 years run....still, he's been here long enough to where the offense should run itself as long as we have Duncan, Parker and Manu to run it.- PJ maybe leaving.
The only good news is Horry deciding to come back.
That's just the first bit of good news...
It doesn't matter what I WANT, you said that there is definitely no plan. Based upon what we tried to do in 2003, I see no reason to believe that the FO doesn't have something in mind - potentially big considering that the last couple years of duncan & ginobili's prime will staring them in the face. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, but there is no reason to say that there is no plan.
And if they sign a max guy, give this FO some credit for an ability to be creative with filling out the rest of the roster.
The possibility is there, but at this point with precious few years remaining in TD's career you have to lean towards what makes you better today. If the Spurs set themselves up to have, say $8 mil in cap room in '08 that'd be enough.
ESPN's Hollinger thinks it'll end up being 3 yr, $12M, pretty close to what Kori said.
Good point. But it's impossible to tell what the cap will be in 2008 so that'd give the Spurs' FO hope to continue on with the plan.
Agree, I will even wait July and the start of the FA period.
Even if they work some sort of opt-out deal with TD? ie that summer he opts out, taking ~ 20 million off the payroll. The Spurs sign FA's as appropriate, up to the salary cap (~57 million in 08), and then resign Duncan using his bird rights. Something like $15 million/year for 6 years, is worth much more than the remaining 2 years of his contract (08/09 $20,598,704 09/10 $22,183,220).
I think you use your full MLE this summer if it will make you better, '08 be damned. Assuming $13 mil in '08 cap room before that, that would give them about $8 mil in cap room in '08 after, which is enough to give them an edge over teams which will only have the MLE then.
I think you extend TD this summer if he is amenable.
Until Phoenix decides to give him a call...
Fine, I'll re-phrase:
I do not think there is any sort of 2008 Plan.
You can't do that.
Read that :
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#30
finley is opting out also... duh
Aren't they trying to cut payroll?
I hope Spurs FO isn't dumb enough to have a plan based on an unlikely event like a big cap raise.
Sorry, but the bit pieces are not easily replaced, and they are important...it took us 3 years to replace Mario Elie...it took us a year to replace Jack.
Oberto became a key part of the rotation at the end of this season...unless you can show me who is going to do the job as well as he did...I'd say he's a must re-sign. And it's not about stats when you are talking role players on this team...it's about chemistry and wins...Oberto is proven.
Allegedly. If not them, then Dallas, Houston, LA or whoever.
I don't look at the Oberto move as a lost opportunity. He has just tipped the offensive rebound back out to the PG to reset the shot clock....that's all.
Fair enough - but what are you basing that on? You may not always like what we've done in the offseason over the past 5 years (I don't), but Pop/RC usually seem to have a pretty good idea of what they want to do, even after their first options fall through.
The Spurs should no doubt be in a win now phase. Then again, I've been saying the same thing for seven years now.
If I were in control, I'd re-sign Oberto and Bonner. I'd be more hesitant to re-sign Finley than I would Oberto and Bonner. Finley is replaceable in the draft or in free agency since he plays the position that easiest to fill. Big guys who are willing and capable of fitting into the Spurs system are much tougher to find.
I'd also use the MLE to add talent to the team. If the Spurs have The 2008 Plan in mind, they won't use the MLE this summer.
We'll see how the Spurs proceed this summer but I'd be surprised if they abort The 2008 Plan. But we'll see.
Luis Scola....who is more talented, younger, and now...he's more likely cheaper.
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