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I'm surprised you'd not heard it before. You sure must feel dumb after running around all this time saying Colin Powell was the only one confessing. , you were even wrong about that.
But, why is it hilarious?
Bush admits Iraq intelligence was wrong
That one is hilarious.
I'm surprised you'd not heard it before. You sure must feel dumb after running around all this time saying Colin Powell was the only one confessing. , you were even wrong about that.
But, why is it hilarious?
Bush doesn't take any cause for war that has been debunked seriously. He just replaces it with a new cause. That's hilarious.
How so?
See, you seem to throw things out without knowing what you're talking about.
You've said Colin Powell confessed to exaggerating and making up intelligence and you were wrong.
You've said Colin Powell was the only one admitting the intelligence was wrong and you were wrong.
Now you're saying the president is constantly moving the target. Please tell us how.
If Bush is now confessing, why hasn't he approached the fabrications?
He's had enough time to do that, don't you think?
I've never heard Bush apologize for submitting fabricated evidence. Do you have a link or quote? I would never put someone on ignore, so I'm ready to see it.
I don't know how he still tried to pass off Saddam as an imminent threat to the US after all the premises for war fell away.
How was Saddam an imminent threat to the US?
Who said he submitted fabricated evidence?
See, you're just making up now.
Now confessing? Fabrications? What's that. Those articles were written in 2005 and some before.
I think your argument is with the press, not the president.
They've had ample opportunity to ask all these questions.
All he had to do was convince people like Yoni. There is more of them than you think.
You got me. I understand the most important things came as surprise to him.
That is a lot of stupid people40% Still Believe Saddam Behind 911
Believing his regime was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001 is something quite different than believing Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.
Planning, financing, or carrying out covers a lot of territory involving varying levels of possibility.
This is the problem with you lefties, you mold a string of text into whatever you want it to say and start carrying on about your made up instead of what was actually said to begin with.
This behavior has been on prominent display in this forum today.
Count me as one of the stupid people who believe Saddam Hussein's regime was, at the very least, involved in either financing or logistics of the September 11, attacks.
Believing his regime was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001 is something quite different than believing Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.
No it isn't.You were counted as one of the stupid people long, long ago.Count me as one of the stupid people
But everything still came as a surprise to saddam, right yoni?
I'll give you the permission to have it both, all ways. You seem to need it more than me. You dismiss Powells assertion of deliberate misleading as if he couldn't possibly be telling us the truth. Now we're left with nothing but Bush's and Cheney's word, which couldn't spring for a cup of joe in tijuana.
I wonder how you feel about other staunch republicans that finally address the truth. Are they traitors or simply more evolved?
Looks like the lefties here have been getting too much Randi Rhodes and Al Franken.
A thoughts about "deliberately misleading" evidence. There was Joe Wilson's lies... I know that doesn't count for the point being made, but what if that is what Powell meant?
Another thought is why did the CIA director resign? Was it because of the Valarie Plame Blame Game? Was he part of that possible conspiracy? Or... Did anyone here know that Tenent had a friend die in the 9/11 attack, I think his friend was in one of the planes that flew into a tower. How could this have affected his judgment? Could he have distorted the evidence? "It's a slam dunk!"
"I know that doesn't count"
no, it doesn't, but throw it in, anyway. JW didn't propose, agitate, bully, spew half-truths and falsehoods about Saddam.
"why did the CIA director resign"
A grab for the book money, and to defend himself against dubya and head refusing all accountability for and dumping the bad intel blame on Tenet and his agency.
No, that's absolutely not what he meant. He meant things like wholly fabricated tales about mobile WMD labs from drunk taxi drivers living in Germany.A thoughts about "deliberately misleading" evidence. There was Joe Wilson's lies... I know that doesn't count for the point being made, but what if that is what Powell meant?No, he resigned because he was responsible for a good part of the largest intelligence failure in US history and knew he shouldn't have been DCI anymore.Another thought is why did the CIA director resign? Was it because of the Valarie Plame Blame Game? Was he part of that possible conspiracy?
A more recent interview with Colin Powell:
Meet the Press pt. 1
Meet the Press pt. 2
Meet the Press pt. 3
Yoni, I'm not a lefty and you are an idiot if you believe that Saddam was involved in either financing or logistics of the September 11, attacks.
I was simply posting what you had asked clambake to post. A simple thank you will suffice.
It didn't support his premise that the president was still relying on faulty intelligence after it was known to be untrue.
I think clambake would have preferred you find an example that occurred after Powell's 2004 interview. Your find was irrelevant to the discussion.
The press spent much of the 90's talking about the growing relationship between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.
There is much anectdotal and cir stantial evidence of a relationship.
I think it's possible. Is there smoking gun evidence? No. But, so what? I can't believe the world is more ready to believe we know enough about Saddam Hussein's dealings over the last 12 years of his regime to know whether or not there was a relationship between it and al Qaeda.
I think you're an idiot for dismissing it out of hand.
^^Wasn't Saddam giving 25 grand to the families of those
who blew themselves up? Just checking.
The "Palestinian" suicide bombers. Yes.
He also either gave sanctuary to -- or ignored the presence of -- other islamo-fascist terrorists and groups that took up residence in Baghdad; Abu Abbas and Abu Nidal being the two most famous.
I was posting what ChumpDumper had posted originally, which you asked Clambake to re-post because you have Chump on ignore. Really, are you that dense?
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