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    Peter Holt after tomorrow's hangover,

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    Hopefully the Spurs will be able to use this to increase their own virtually non-existent marketing presence in Austin as well. Austin is a rabid sports market once a team breaks through and catches the interest of the town.
    I was thinking this too. Could be good marketing ploy to get Austin folks more interested in Spurs. I always wondered why Spurs were basically ignored in Austin. Dreaming----I still want a rail to go from Austin, pick up folks in Buda, Kyle, San Marcos, New Braunfels, etc. and drop off at ATT Center for games. I'm sure that's not in any pending plans.

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    I was thinking this too. Could be good marketing ploy to get Austin folks more interested in Spurs. I always wondered why Spurs were basically ignored in Austin. Dreaming----I still want a rail to go from Austin, pick up folks in Buda, Kyle, San Marcos, New Braunfels, etc. and drop off at ATT Center for games. I'm sure that's not in any pending plans.

    It's the damn Spurs that do it...and the stupid KENS Blackouts because they are supposedly in our range...I think like 30 years ago you could pick up KENS here if you lived just outside of Buda(and had a big 30 foot antenna outside your house).

    But anyway...the Spurs suck butt at marketing...I think I can remember two big marketing pushes here in Austin by the Spurs in my entire life...one was something having to do with Gervin making some appearances here back in 1981...and the other was they held a couple of scrimmages here about 15 years ago...I honestly can't think of anything else they have done...and if they have done other stuff, they need to fire the people that advertised it here in Austin, because they didn't advertise it much at all. Even the scrimmages I only found out about becuse I was living in SA at the time.


    Tex Schramm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spurs FO

    You think about it...the Spurs are going through a better dynastic period than the Cowboys have ever had...one of the best in history not by the Yankees or Celtics...and they can't even generate interest in a sports hungry town with no pro franchise 60 miles away. The Spurs are marketing morons. As good as they've been at putting together winning teams from day 1...they've been equally lousy at marketing.

    Someone needs to put their foot up KENS azz and get the blackout restrictions lifted here in Austin...or else get KENS to boost their freaking signal.

    The Mavs are actually taking this market away from the Spurs....

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    I'm laughing cause I cought myself again on that whott is black

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    every nba team should have a triple aaa team . and they can do whatever with those players unless they release them.

    Like MLB but only 1 level. right now 2-3 teams share 1 team pool of players.

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    The Spurs just keep finding ways to succeed. First in scouting international prospects and now having their very own minor type league.

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    Me and the mookie crew are going to crash your D-League Show one of these days...it's been discussed, and plans are in the works...be ready for it..Anthony
    As long as their isn't a Spurs home game that night, spurastic & I may invite our selves to help crash that party

    It's the damn Spurs that do it...and the stupid KENS Blackouts because they are supposedly in our range...I think like 30 years ago you could pick up KENS here if you lived just outside of Buda(and had a big 30 foot antenna outside your house).

    But anyway...the Spurs suck butt at marketing...I think I can remember two big marketing pushes here in Austin by the Spurs in my entire life...one was something having to do with Gervin making some appearances here back in 1981...and the other was they held a couple of scrimmages here about 15 years ago...I honestly can't think of anything else they have done...and if they have done other stuff, they need to fire the people that advertised it here in Austin, because they didn't advertise it much at all. Even the scrimmages I only found out about becuse I was living in SA at the time.


    Tex Schramm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spurs FO

    You think about it...the Spurs are going through a better dynastic period than the Cowboys have ever had...one of the best in history not by the Yankees or Celtics...and they can't even generate interest in a sports hungry town with no pro franchise 60 miles away. The Spurs are marketing morons. As good as they've been at putting together winning teams from day 1...they've been equally lousy at marketing.

    Someone needs to put their foot up KENS azz and get the blackout restrictions lifted here in Austin...or else get KENS to boost their freaking signal.

    The Mavs are actually taking this market away from the Spurs....
    Seems like in the first 4 or 5 years after the merger, there was talk of at least exhibition games in Austin, and after the Erwin Center was built, there was mention of some regular season games up here--don't know if any of those ever panned out, because I was out of Texas about then

    Wasn't one of the minor Cuban-making-an-ass-of-hisself events during the 2006 playoffs that he wanted to make Austin a exclusive market for the Mavs? To the point of trying to badger Fox Sports into blacking out Spurs & Rockets games in Austin and showing only Mavs games here

    But otherwise, you're right, Spurs marketing in Austin sucks
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    I don't think it's coincidental that the Spurs bought their own farm team a year before the "big' transition' after next season. The obvious assumption is that they want to start developing players they can plug into their system next season and for years to come.
    Does anyone have the info on how the league runs? Can the Spurs contract all the players? Can they assign a player from their regular roster there for an indefinite period or just for several games? Buford mentioned something about tweaking the rules to make it work for the Spurs? What was that about?

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    Why would a player ever want to play for a D-League team that's totally owned by an NBA franchise, unless he's already under contract to that franchise?

    If I'm Joe Blow Freeagent, why would I want to play for the Toros if that prevents me from being called up by any other team except the Spurs?

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    Why would a player ever want to play for a D-League team that's totally owned by an NBA franchise, unless he's already under contract to that franchise?

    If I'm Joe Blow Freeagent, why would I want to play for the Toros if that prevents me from being called up by any other team except the Spurs?
    I wonder that too. That's why I can't imagine that the Spurs would have exclusive rights to all of the players on the Toros roster -- I would imagine that they'll be exclusive with the guys that they send down; and I would imagine that they're trying to get the rules changed so that guys who are sent down won't occupy an NBA roster spot while in the NBDL. But I can't imagine that they get exclusive rights to every player on that roster; if they do, I can't imagine that they're going to get too many players to sign there.

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    In looking at some of last year's call-ups, it seems clear that NBA teams can call-up any unallocated player in the D-League, whether there is an affiliation agreement between the NBA team and the D-League team. The Celtics, for example, were affiliated with the Austin club in 2006-07 (as far as I can tell) but called up a player from Bakersfield. With that said, I still am not sure about the effect on exclusivity of one NBA team owning the NBDL team; the Lakers' NBDL team didn't have any players called up last year, and the Lakers didn't (apparently) call up any D-League players.

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    Anyone have up to date info on this.
    How many Austin Toros are "owned" by the Spurs?
    How many can only sign with the Spurs?
    I know Ian Manhimi is signed thru this season with the Spurs.
    How about say All Stars Keith Langford and Jeremy Richardson, can any NBA team sign them or for now just the Spurs.

    Chump is it still 4 players on the Toros can sign with only the Spurs exclusively while all others can sign with any NBA team.
    Questions questions....

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    The only player on the Toros the Spurs "own" is Ian Mahimni. Any NBA team can sign any of the other Toros players. RC told me he eventually wants the NBA to change the rules to where the Spurs would have some rights to all the players on the Toros.

    Jeremy Richardson is now back on Fort Wayne's D-LEague team and can also be signed by any team.

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    So the way it is now the Spurs are footing the bill but any team can pick (rob) the Toros fruit. I dont get it. The only real benefit the Spurs get is that its close by San Antone? Not saying that is a tiny benefit but since any team can sign any Toro (except Ian M), that seems strange, doesn't seem worth it for the Spurs to pay for the development of players that end up with other teams.
    Earlier in the thread you were mentioning "4" per team.

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    That 4 per team was the number of players I thought the Toros were able to bring back from last season (the rule was changed : the number was raised and now includes allocated players in whatever ratio the team likes).

    RC told me that that was one of he rules he wanted to have changed -- he would like to have some kind of right of first refusal over non-assigned Toros players. It seems like something that isn't going to change until a lot of teams run their own D-League teams - though I think if they changed the rule it could be used as an incentive for more NBA clubs to buy D-League teams.

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