As It Stands: Spurs Salaries

[Bruno]

Bump.
Update :
- Espn trade machine is saying that Mahinmi salary is $625,840 (80% of the rookie scale). Realgm trade machine is too saying that.
- I assume Marcus Williams, Kris Lang, Lever Pedroza and Keith Langford contracts were fully non guaranteed but it's likely false.

Tim Duncan -- $19,014,188
Tony Parker -- $10,500,000
Manu Ginobili -- $9,079,811
Brent Barry -- $5,544,370
Bruce Bowen -- $4,125,000
Robert Horry -- $3,630,000
Fabricio Oberto -- $3,500,000
Michael Finley -- $3,103,000
Francisco Elson -- $3,000,000
Matt Bonner -- $2,700,000
Ime Udoka -- $1,000,000
Jacque Vaughn - $1,219,590 ($770,610 against the luxury tax)
Ian Mahinmi - $625,840
Darius Washington - $427,163($770,610 against the luxury tax)

Spurs team salary : $67,363,429 against the tax for 14 players.
The Luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $500K under it.

If the guaranteed salary for training camp invite was below $75K, Spurs could have kept Williams and stay bellow the tax threshold.

[timvp]

Nice. I was just about to go update this thread. Great job

Espn trade machine is saying that Mahinmi salary is $625,840 (80% of the rookie scale). Realgm trade machine is too saying that.

Just as I expected. Mahinmi had absolutely no leverage in this situation.

Gotta give props to the Spurs because I don't know of another player in NBA history who received only 80% of the rookie scale.

I assume Marcus Williams, Kris Lang, Lever Pedroza and Keith Langford contracts were fully non guaranteed but it's likely false.

Yeah, I highly doubt any of those guys got guaranteed money. Maybe one or two of them got like $15K but no more than that.

If the guaranteed salary for training camp invite was below $75K, Spurs could have kept Williams and stay bellow the tax threshold.

Wow. This means either one of two things:

1) This Beno trade developed fast.

2) Williams was horrible. Even worse than timvp said he was.

I don't really think the Beno trade happened overly fast. Although if that didn't, it wouldn't make any sense to have waived Williams. Unless, of course, he was so horribly inept that he wasn't worth spending a few bucks on to send to DLeague.

I knew Williams was bad but to waive just for pure scrubness without any monetary or roster size concern even surprises me.

[whottt]

I knew Williams was bad but to waive just for pure scrubness without any monetary or roster size concern even surprises me.

Then again...the Spurs might have someone else they want in that spot.

[timvp]

Then again...the Spurs might have someone else they want in that spot.

But anyone else will push the Spurs back over the luxury tax threshold. Williams wouldn't.

[ChumpDumper]

But anyone else will push the Spurs back over the luxury tax threshold. Williams wouldn't.

Would Viktor?

[whottt]

But anyone else will push the Spurs back over the luxury tax threshold. Williams wouldn't.

Contrary to the way you've been painting of them of late...Spurs have peeped over the lux tax threshold before...

Perhaps they genuinely didn't want Williams because he sucks...and perhaps they want someone else.


Then again...they might just keep it at 14...but they have gone over the lux tax before....I don't know why you'd be so suprised if they did it again.

[timvp]

Would Viktor?

Good point.

Bring him aboard

[picnroll]

Spurs should hold the spot open and see who comes on strong in D-league like Azubuike last year.

[whottt]

By the way...this deal could have been in the works for a while...

Perhaps there was more to the Spanoulis trade than many think...


To me it was obvious Pop was counting the minutes till he could get someone to replace Beno...for most of last year.

[timvp]

By the way...this deal could have been in the works for a while...

Perhaps there was more to the Spanoulis trade than many think...

Still holding out hope that the Spanoulis deal was more than a salary dump.

This deal couldn't have been in the works for that long considering the T'Wolves just got the trade exception as part of the Ricky Davis trade.

[timvp]

Spurs should hold the spot open and see who comes on strong in D-league like Azubuike last year.

I think I'd rather the Spurs Sanikidze now than rely on their domestic scouts to pick a solid DLeaguer.

[Mr. Body]

By the way...this deal could have been in the works for a while...

Perhaps there was more to the Spanoulis trade than many think...


To me it was obvious Pop was counting the minutes till he could get someone to replace Beno...for most of last year.

Spanoulis was a salary dump.

Washington was a MASSIVE surprise. No one planned for him to be good.

[ChumpDumper]

I think I'd rather the Spurs Sanikidze now than rely on their domestic scouts to pick a solid DLeaguer.

If they listen to McHone at all they should be a little stronger in that department -- but there's no one head and shoulders over Viktor in terms of upside available right now. Bring him in.

[Bruno]

Wow. This means either one of two things:

1) This Beno trade developed fast.

2) Williams was horrible. Even worse than timvp said he was.

I don't really think the Beno trade happened overly fast. Although if that didn't, it wouldn't make any sense to have waived Williams. Unless, of course, he was so horribly inept that he wasn't worth spending a few bucks on to send to DLeague.

I knew Williams was bad but to waive just for pure scrubness without any monetary or roster size concern even surprises me.

I don't believe at all in the first one because Spurs dumped Williams way before the deadline.

You have too the rule saying that you can't have more than 2 players in the D-League at the same time.

Mahinmi, Washington and Williams need to play in Austin.

If you keep Williams, you had two choices :
- Rotate the three players between Austin and Spurs IL. In this case Williams will hurt Mahinmi's and Washington's development.
- Give Mahinmi and Washington the priority to go in Austin. In this case Williams won't play a lot in Austin.

It's possible that Spurs thinks that :
1) Washington and Mahinmi are way better prospects than Williams and that they don't to see Williams hurting their development.
2) Without playing in Austin, Williams chances to become a good player are very slim.

[timvp]

If the Spurs needlessly dumped Williams just because he sucked, I now wonder if the Spurs/Toros will even pick him in the D-League draft. I'm suddenly not so sure they will.

[whottt]

still clinging to the belief that Pop isn't 100% the impetus behind this move, and didn't want Beno gone.


Damn...even Sequ saw it.

[whottt]

needlessly dumped Williams just because he sucked,

Does not compute.


And why wouldn't they still take him in the D-league draft? Why pay him when they can d-league him?

[Holt's Cat]

So who's out there looking for a home?

[timvp]

still clinging to the belief that Pop isn't 100% the impetus behind this move, and didn't want Beno gone.

Damn...even Sequ saw it.

Link to where I claimed otherwise? I said this had nothing to do with Spanoulis.

Spanoulis != Pop

Does not compute.


And why wouldn't they still take him in the D-league draft? Why pay him when they can d-league him?

Because he sucks? And because he refused the Spurs' recommendation to go to Europe?

A scrub who won't listen isn't exactly a guy the Spurs will bend over backwards for.

So who's out there looking for a home?

Jumaine Jones got cut. He has always made sense for this team.

[picnroll]

I think I'd rather the Spurs Sanikidze now than rely on their domestic scouts to pick a solid DLeaguer.

Why can't Snaikidze get time on a weaker Spanish league team or even picked up by a 2nd tier Euro team this year? I'm not convinced he's all that hot. He had a few nice plays in SL most of the time he didn't stand out.

[Holt's Cat]

Jumaine Jones got cut. He has always made sense for this team.

He'd be nice insurance for an aging 2/3 rotation.

[ChumpDumper]

Why can't Snaikidze get time on a weaker Spanish league team or even picked up by a 2nd tier Euro team this year? I'm not convinced he's all that hot. He had a few nice plays in SL most of the time he didn't stand out.

There's one sure way to find out....

[remingtonbo2001]

Good point.

Bring him aboard

We could give him Beno's house.

Party at Beno's ol' place (Viktor's Place) !

[Holt's Cat]

Spurs team salary : $67,363,429 against the tax for 14 players.
The Luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $500K under it.

So is this accurate or not?

[T Park]

sign up Federline errrrr Sanikidze. Sounds like hes the same as Mahinmi in that he cant get PT....