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The conflict in Israel may be heightened by the support a highly Christian populated country gives it, but read up peewee, the conflict is between the Jews and the Palestinians, not the Christians.
Crying??
I started a bull thread and the purists take it over to make it into a holy rant and I'm crying??
STFU you ' .
That's like saying that I should be okay when I'm having a bull conversation with someone in the mall and some god-lover comes up to us to preach.
I'm supposed to be okay with that??
I'm supposed to be there and listen to that??
STFU and go post on some Christian website!!
The conflict in Israel may be heightened by the support a highly Christian populated country gives it, but read up peewee, the conflict is between the Jews and the Palestinians, not the Christians.
Yeah, you dumbass. It's the christians against the muslims, ya dumbass.
Now, let us worship the Lord together. (how ing vain is a God that needs the worship of pissant little nothings) Maybe it's a God that was created by man.
Sometimes I think I already live in H.E. double hockey sticks
really? with your doctor and your nice house and you audi and your loaded parents and your wonderful kids? what's so ish?
The conflict in Israel goes waaaaaaay back . . . all the way back to the Crusades.
Do you know anything about the crusades??
Anything at all??
That's when stupid ass Christians thought God was telling them that they had to kill off the Muslims in the "Holy Land". So, they marched all the way to the "Holy Land" to kick some ass and to kill a Muslim here and there. Only, they got their asses handed to them. And, pretty bad.
But, being the true Christians they were (and because they couldn't stand the fact that they got their asses whooped by some other god's people) they figured they had to kick some other religious peoples' asses. So, after a while, the Christians believed that God was telling them that they had to kill Jews.
So, The Inquisition was born. And, millions of Jews were killed. It was easier to kill them because they didn't have an actual country. It was fun, but they got bored and decided that they had to up the game. So, Christians decided to war with each other. And, Europe was pretty much cut in half and war ensued for hundreds of years. Too many people died and it became an inconvenience. So, some of them quit. However, the Irish and the English still haven't quit the game. What are you gonna do, right?
Anyway, a whole "new world" was discovered and Christians found that it was easier to kill defenseless people in the name of God. So, the natives of the Americas were systematically killed in the name of God. Then, some people in Europe were getting tired of all this "God" stuff. They really just wanted to party, drink, and . Problem was, that there were still some pretty uptight Christian whackos that wanted everyone to live a "pure" life, lest God destroy them for their heathen lifestyle.
So, England kicked out the uptight pricks and they landed in America. These Pricks . . . er, um, Purists started to colonize North America by killing Native Americans (both actively by just shooting their asses, and inactively by giving them the gifts of blankets covered in the smallpox virus). But, that was all okay because God wanted it so.
Anyway, fast forward to present day America and we have you, our little "ashbeeigh" (pronounced "ass bag"?) who is a decendent, in one way or another, of these uptight, purist Christian whackos.
And, if it came down to it, you'd probably kill heathens in the name of the all might God if you were asked to do it.
Seriously, you Christians are a violent group of people.
yep...life's a , ain't it?really? with your doctor and your nice house and you audi and your loaded parents and your wonderful kids? what's so ish?
Religion has made On Earth possible.
I urge everyone to read:
God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitchins.
Religious Fundamentalistsreally? with your doctor and your nice house and you audi and your loaded parents and your wonderful kids? what's so ish?
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay earlier then that. Do you know what they're fighting over? They're fighting over the religious right to the city of Jeruselum. The city holds the temple for each religion and they both believe they have spiritual claim to it. The Crusades have nothing to do with the current status of Israel, which I was speaking of...in my humble opinion.
I'm sharing opinions here, you aren't changing mine, and you never will. I just hope you can someday see the differences in views. If you're going to be so gotdamn passionate about your side of the argument you need to understand my passion as well. I can't remember the exact passage, and if I ever can remember it I'll post it, but it's about saying and doing things 100% and not half assed. Obviously we both are going 100% in our arguments, even if I don't think your side is correct and you don't believe in mine, there's nothing to do about it. I'll just hope that one day you'll at least be able to see both sides of the argument, because I do.
Kori, please make a seperate forum for religion. As my Daddy always said, "it's not polite to discuss religion or politics" Religion is such a highly personal thing, and I am deeply offended by this thread. Thanks
Are you re ed, or does your lazy eye affect your reasoning as well as your sight??
The Jews and Muslims in Israel are still fighting for the right to Jerusalem. The path to peace in that area has always been for one of them to relinquish their right to Jerusalem. Jews never will because Jerusalem was the ancient capital of Israel. Muslims (palestinians) will never give up claim because Muhammad ascended onto heaven from Jerusalem.
Christians continue to put pressure on both sides becasue they lay claim to the land where Jesus roamed, especially Jerusalem where the Church of The Holy Sepulchre is at.
Sooooooooo, the religious conflict that embroiled the three religions thousands of years ago continues to this very day.
Just what the do they teach you in church??
Have an original thought and quit regergitating whatever your priest/pastor/minister/elder/little-boy-lover tells you to believe.
You just half assed the quote.
hardy har har. It's Luke 9:57-62.
Night, night, ya'll
On the Crusades, I think it's quite ironic given the at udes of modern Westerners towards Islam, that in the First Crusade, everyone in Jerusalem (Muslims and Jews mostly) was slaughtered after the Christians took it over, but when Saladin recaptured it a century later he let people go if they could pay a ransom, and only sold the others into slavery.
Saladin was a good guy.
Wow, someone who know's his history.On the Crusades, I think it's quite ironic given the at udes of modern Westerners towards Islam, that in the First Crusade, everyone in Jerusalem (Muslims and Jews mostly) was slaughtered after the Christians took it over, but when Saladin recaptured it a century later he let people go if they could pay a ransom, and only sold the others into slavery.
Saladin was a good guy.
Yea, I agree.
Saladin was known as merciful and tolerant of the people he conquered.
He even let the Jews and Christians worship their own gods as long as they weren't seditious.
Christians however, god damn were they a violent bunch of s!!
I didn't realize that Jesus lectured about half assing.
Anyway, it took you that long to post that??
What, you had to go to your pastor's house and blow him for the info??
20/20 is doing a show on tonight.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3360678&page=1
The Fascination With 's Fury
Has Played a Role Across Cultures and History, but What Does It Mean Today?
By ROB WALLACE and FARNAZ JAVID
July 11, 2007 —
Do you believe in ? If you do, you're not the only one.
This afterlife for so-called sinners has fascinated society since the dawn of time. The very thought of the place inspired Dante to write his "Inferno," giving us history's most detailed description of the underworld.
Since then, artists from Michelangelo to Marilyn Manson have shaped our opinion of the infernal abyss. Most religious teachings describe as the netherworld anyone might end up in who strays from the straight and narrow. That view seems to be changing in this age of logic and political correctness.
Watch the full story on "20/20's" special " : Our Fear and Fascination," Friday at 10 p.m. EDT
A decade ago, 56 percent of Americans polled said they believed in . After the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the number shot up to 71 percent (polls conducted by Harris and Gallup), then fell in recent years, but this pattern is not a new phenomenon. Man's definition of the abyss has shifted since the dawn of humanity. And through it all, it seems the more sinister is made out to be, the more it is mocked and embraced. It is a surefire punch line on television and in movies, and it's used to market everything from comic books to chewing gum.
's Lure
can also be a seductive muse for all those fans of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. One of them, a kid from an Ohio Christian school named Brian Warner is today better known as Marilyn Manson. For more than a decade, he has made millions with his dark music and artwork, thrilling fans and provoking conservatives.
Manson said he's confident he'll end up in when he dies. Laughing, he said, "I am gonna say that it would probably be a more comfortable place for me, because everyone I know would be there, and I wouldn't really be allowed to do anything in heaven that would be any fun."
The possibility of going to may be attractive to Manson, but in the past, many held on to hopes that their enemies would spend eternity in its fiery grip.
Satan's realm grew more vivid through the harsh Middle Ages. Miriam Van Scott, who wrote "The Encyclopedia of ," said that is because peasant masses embraced the idea of heavenly relief and divine payback.
, she continued, "was especially popular in the time when the lord or the king or the emperor could steal your daughter. He could sell your family away. So they really liked the idea of, 'OK, at some point you're gonna pay."
The Road to ...
In modern times, who exactly is destined for damnation? Singer and songwriter Kurt Cobain asked that question in his song "Lake of Fire," and later committed suicide. A new ad for Orbit gum imagines the rock star in heaven, but most religions would send someone who took his own life to .
But in this age of science, Van Scott said people are moving away from that idea. " is a little too medieval. It's a little too extreme," she said. "There have been so many horrible humanitarian disasters on sort of massive scales that it's very hard to imagine something worse."
That shift in thinking could one day end fear of eternal torture. Columbia University religion professor Alan Segal said, "Americans have been doing away with on a regular basis. We pretty much all think we're going to heaven."
Even the Vatican is modifying its position on where you could end up after death. For centuries, Catholics believed in a benign form of called limbo, a place reserved for unbaptized babies. But recently the pope let go of that idea altogether, leaving some wondering if the church, or all of humanity, could ever let go of entirely.
Copyright © 2007 ABC News Internet Ventures
I'll check it out when I finish the latest Ann Coulter book.
Like I said, fear is the reason most go to god. That's why the Republicans are so successful.
According to Ed Helicopter Jones, science can't be trusted because it's "constantly re-writing itself". Funny that religion does too.
You know God can't make a circle square either?
It's true.
That is hot, but she's ing insane.
It can be a hard thing to do, even for god.
But, if science were to ever find a way, I'm sure god would get credit.
Christopher Hitchens is smart but he lets his intellectual superiority complex combined with his hate for organized religion water down his logic and produce smug atheism-for-dummies books like "God is Not Great" which are lauded by anti-religion college students because it beefs up their sense of self-importance for rejecting a belief in something they don't see or fully understand.
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