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I suspect that Butler is being featured this summer. Perhaps not for the Spurs roster.
The trade Butler comments should be dead now. I admit I thought it was a good thing to look at, but have stepped off that platform.
I suspect that Butler is being featured this summer. Perhaps not for the Spurs roster.
Perhaps. But also not for a second round pick.
He definitely looks better than a 2nd round pick.
They should get more than that.
I'd say he looks better than a late first rounder as well.
Hes not worthy of a top 10 pick or anything, and probably not even a lottery pick, but a late teens pick would make me sleep better at night. Otherwise, keep him.
What would Butler look like if he ever got in great shape?
My problem with Butler is not that he isn't a good player -- just not a particularly good fit for the Spurs alongside Duncan. The prototype center with Duncan was Robinson, lanky, athletic, could run the floor.
Shaq is a great player but I don't think he would be as good with the Spurs as elsewhere.
I don't know that he really needs to drop much more weight, but some additional conditioning would be nice. Moreover, I'm unsure how many of his "conditioning" issues are truly physical and how much of it is simply laziness on his behalf.
The real area of development for Butler right now comes with developing mental toughness and consistency (mostly consistency of effort). I think his time in New York has created some bad habits as far as on court resolve. But his Bball IQ is there as well as his obvious natural gifts.
True. That's why Splitter was such a great pick, and why Elson was on the right track.
Still, Butler has talent and could rough teams up for stretches.
So make the majority of Butler's minutes come when Duncan is on the bench. Duncan probably spends 15 min a game sitting, so if Butler plays all of that time then you've already got a great foundation. Then you only need 5 more min a game alongside Duncan and you're at 20 (the realistic amount of time I think Butler could log this upcoming season). Can you live with 5MPG of a "not perfect fit" lineup in order to maintain a post presence at all times?
Udonis Haslem improved greatly when he went from this:
to this:
And it took about two years for Haslem. Butler is one year in.
I agree with you in theory and I would have fully agreed with you a week ago. But after watching Butler in summer league, he has the outside shot and the passing ability to work the high post on offense.
Defensively, Duncan and Butler wouldn't be the quickest duo, but it could work against some teams. If Butler can continue to get skinnier and quicker, he could make it work on both sides of the ball.
And with Shaq still alive and kicking in the East and Oden being introduced to the West, Butler's size and strength could still come in handy.
Is he worth $4M?
year considering rasho was making much more
I think it makes more sense to move Barry than it does Butler. Barry is a player that has did little for us last year, doesn't step up in the playoffs, has no foreseeable future with the club past next season nor any upside, is impeding a younger player's progress with his mere presence (White) and simply has more value than Butler.
Moving Barry makes the cost of Butler go down (no Lux tax). Problem solved.
Fixed.
I assume that means your answer is no.
If you salary dump Beno, and you want to blame Butler for being over the luxury threshold, Butler costs the Spurs all of $2.7M. In other words, less than Elson for a player nine years younger.
So yes, Butler is worth his contract.
I hope we keep him. I think he can contribute some this season and get better in the future.
If you can't salary dump Beno and you have the chance to salary dump Butler, then it saves you $4M. But you already know that.
And if you salary dump Elson, it saves the team $5M.
shocking ploto dumps on the black guy.
How come no one accuses her of being a friggen racist?
Practically speaking, Tim isn't a forward anymore. He is the center. Butler is a backup center. They shouldn't play together. As a backup, Butler can play 18 minutes.
I wonder if Victor can play against Dirk, he looks long, energetic and maybe make dirk play some defense.
I argued a year ago, that Khryapa has the tools to become a very good defender for players like Dirk. still think so.
Khryapa is very limited, but for a special role with the Spurs he would be very helpful.
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