do not let the door hit you on the way out
No chance.
do not let the door hit you on the way out
And thus began the downfall.
The problem is, the Spurs were always this close to pulling off signing highly coveted free agent x and instead end up with some 40 year old over the hill veteran who is looking to gravy train to a le.
I wonder how this will affect timvp's South Park looks.
timvp during the regular season . . . timvp during the playoffs . . . timvp after the playoffs . . . timvp after Spurs management apparently owned by Rockets?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...6&postcount=39
NO, but I think Ian is a lock now
We'll see how it plays out. Spurs biggest need was and still is a long 3 and a backup PG. Not Butler. Not Scola. Scola is not the agile PF the Rockets need to match with the slow footed Yao.The Spurs always are "about" to sign the last player who just got signed. I file this away with how the Spurs "almost" got Przybilla and Zo last year.
It's just an excuse to then go sign a scrub to a one year contract and say oh well we tried.
Let me get this straight. The Spurs publicly scoffed at deals of Scola for a second round pick. So what do they do? Trade Scola AND Butler for a second round pick.
Fantastic.
And to top it off, to the Houston Rockets.
Someone please wake me up.
I'm not really going to, but it just pisses me off as a Spurs fan that I get to watch like this go down so a multi-millionaire cheap ass owner can save a few mil.
If I were paying for season tickets, I would be livid.
I wonder how much power Pop or Buford have when Holt wants to ditch players
what the is our front office doing?
Why stop there? They should have just thrown in Parker too, I hear Houston needs a point as well.
Point is i dont think anyone was really doubting these two were being traded, the point is what we got and who we traded too. I mean they just broke two cardinal sins with this trade, 'trading big for small' or in this case '2 bigs for nothing'. Second, trading to a division and NBA Championship rival and filling their needs. WOW.Three guys with unproven NBA talent were traded for each other. This trade is a big nothing.
The positives and negatives of Scola and Butler are strikingly similar.
Plus Side:
Size
Shooting touch
Offense
Minus Side:
Quickness
Defensive potential
At ude?
Both of the big guys go against the template the Spurs have set up for Duncan's side men.
None of these three will likely ever contribute significantly to an NBA team. (If any ever does, my money is on the Greek guy.)
Once the above is common knowledge, on down the road, the big reaction will be long since forgotten. We just got nothin else to discuss.
Yeah they don't fit the template so you gift wrap them to the Rockets for nothing. And I would have been outraged if this trade happened ten minutes after game four against the Cavs.Three guys with unproven NBA talent were traded for each other. This trade is a big nothing.
The positives and negatives of Scola and Butler are strikingly similar.
Plus Side:
Size
Shooting touch
Offense
Minus Side:
Quickness
Defensive potential
At ude?
Both of the big guys go against the template the Spurs have set up for Duncan's side men.
None of these three will likely ever contribute significantly to an NBA team. (If any ever does, my money is on the Greek guy.)
Once the above is common knowledge, on down the road, the big reaction will be long since forgotten. We just got nothin else to discuss.
This is ownage to the ultimate degree.
To paraphrase the old joke, I guess Clipper season seats are out of the question?
That's the long and the short of it. This is like getting kicked in the nuts as a fan.
I'll to get off the beach and update that post . . .
Dear mother ing Christ Almight.
I don't even want to read the comments, I don't need to.
That's it, all goodwill has evaporated, what four championships, four championships cannot be brought up for the rest of the off-season.
Very true.The problem is, the Spurs were always this close to pulling off signing highly coveted free agent x and instead end up with some 40 year old over the hill veteran who is looking to gravy train to a le.
I though only Spurs fans were spoiled by the 4 les...apparently Holt is too thinking that this formula will work forever even after the Big 3 are gone. , it doesn't always work with the Big 3 still here!
Just like SA tickets, LA's a little far for me to drive.To paraphrase the old joke, I guess Clipper season seats are out of the question?
Let me see: Unload Butlers contract, let Spanoulis walk away & trade Scola's rights go for a future 2nd pick. Scola's stock hit a bear market. Two somethings for nothing. Seems to me this is a setup for something else that is already in the works. Makes no sense otherwise.
Watch Butler have some freakish breakout season.....eww burn.
Purely a cost-cutting move. No more.Seems to me this is a setup for something else that is already in the works. Makes no sense otherwise
I agree with what you're saying here. If this holds true, then why is everyone so upset? I must be missing something.
I can't believe the trade was not only in conference, but also in division!
to the Rockets!
And don't blame any of this on a 'city' or 'fans' who were ready to drop Butler because he was fat and couldn't get ahead in the roster, or were ready to trade Scola because of his buyout or perceived greed or questionable translatable skills . . .
This is all on ownership and management.
Matt Bonner just got 3 million a year.
How much did Butler make again?
Again, Holt wanted under the luxury tax, and RC wanted Matt Bonner.
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