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Hey...it was a dirty job but somebody had to do it...
I also said if Bowen can keep the LeBron in the realm of mortals, the Spurs will sweep.
You think? I'd think we'd hear grousing about, "There goes $1.9 million down the drain."
Hey...it was a dirty job but somebody had to do it...
I also said if Bowen can keep the LeBron in the realm of mortals, the Spurs will sweep.
The only remotely decent take whottt-span has in this thread is the take that the Spurs should go to Greece to see if they can talk V-Span into giving it one more try. If perhaps Pop and Duncan went to Greece and had a talk with him, could they talk him out of giving up?
99% chance not ... but might be worth the shot. Then again, being a quitter who runs home to mommy isn't what has won the Spurs four championships.
Then again if running to mommy gets you onto a championship team like the spurs you say to yourself, "Damn, why didn't I think of that!!"
The day he gets moved behind Vaughn in the rotation, he'd go into a psychotic, tear-soaked rage.
Nah, V-Span is good and the Spurs have be high on him in the past. Pop would need to reign in his wildness but he's a quality prospect. You put him in a pick-and-roll and he'd thrive.
Van Gundy turned him into a spot up shooter. That's exactly the wrong way to use this guy.
Either way, the Spurs come out ahead. If he comes over, he's a solid prospect. If he stays in Europe, the Spurs won't be on the hook for his contract.
That's definitely what I think Pop sees more than the talent, and I wouldn't expect the Spurs to do anything more than gleefully void his contract. No need to replace one mentally and emotionally soft PG with another - but this time one that's disgruntled, hates the USA, and could be a problem in the locker room. At least Beno doesn't cause problems. That's the one good by-product of his laziness.
What can I say...I've think like Pop...sometimes.
You tube is plenty for me to see how fast he is...the key ingredient to transfer to the NBA...the kid is lightning fast with the ball, especially his first step.Read the post you quoted.
YouTube doesn't count.
As opposed to Scola...which was a chance of absolute nil.The chances that he changes his mind are extremely small.
He'll probably be released within the upcoming week.
Again, you didn't even know who he was two days ago. I don't know how you can claim to be a V-Span expert now.
I've never missed on a talent I've actully seen play..
Not a single time...I don't need much more than youtube...
I've never claimed to be an expert on all players...I readily admit, I don't even watch college ball.
But yes, if he were open to playing in the NBA again, I would have liked the trade on a talent level. But unless something crazy happens and he changes his mind, that's not even worth mentioning
Thanks you...that's what I wanted to hear, so you agree with me.
Where we diverge is that you have now become so cynical about about the defending champ Spurs that you think the idea of signing this guy didn't even cross the Spurs minds...
When I can take one look at him and tell you that it's crossing Pop's mind.
Have you read his story?
Except for the fact that Manu is much better and came to the US for pennies compared what V-Span came for. And Manu was never scared and didn't go running back home to mommy.
He's not scared...Scared players don't give up 9 million...he got lied to by the Rockets...and whether you realize it or not...Pop is one of the most powerful coaches in the NBA...JVG wasn't. You've lost your perspective because you don't think miscommunication happens between coaches and GM's...because you never see it on the Spurs.
I never claimed he'd be bettter....but he's right there on talent...he's got speed. And Manu was wild once upon a time too...why do you think he didn't get here till he was 24.V-Span would be a nice prospect. But he's not better than Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili no matter how much you'd want him to be. Then again, that type of scouting got you where you were last year . . .
Huh? Macijauskas went home and said horrid things about the NBA- implied Byron Scott was basically a racist. He had waiting for him a huge contract back in Europe- signing for about 10 million Euros after his buy out.
Sound similar:
The promises of the NO/OC “Hornets” he would be one of the main players on court have evaporated like last year’s snow after the club parted its ways with its General Manager Allan Bristow. It was mainly Allan Brisow who convinced Arvydas Macijauskas to wear the “Hornets” jersey.Even in the case I would be promised the mountains of gold, I see no sense whatsoever staying with the “Hornets.”
I do not think they traded Butler and Scola for a $4 M back up point guard. That is why you and I will never agree on this. I think they took this trade specifically because he would not come.
Says the Kevin McHale of fantasy basketball.
Do you read what you post?
You mean $4M because of luxury tax, right? Yeah, it probably didn't matter if it was Grandma Moses at the end of that contract, so long as it was being voided.
Said exactly that a few pages back....
Good take
I assume your hatred for the Spurs is making it impossible for you to think.
Carefully re-read the post you just quoted and try to piece together the different in the two scenarios. I'm not going to explain it again for the fifth time in this thread.
Yes- I think if he said he wanted to come Holt would be saying %$#@ not yippee!
I do not agree with your belief that the Spurs want him so therefore the situations are not that different. Spurs want rid of his contract just like NO did.
How the am I Kevin McHale...did all his players get injured too?
I honestly don't think the Spurs FO felt more one way or the other. I'm pretty sure they knew that Spanoulis felt disenfranchised, but I'm pretty sure they'll pick up the phone just to guage his interest.
Beno makes $200K less than V-Span this year. If they brought V-Span over, they could just pawn Udrih off to another team for a trade exception and be at square one cap-wise.
Still...I think it's a longshot.
There's not an uptempo PG alive that's going to want to play with Yao and Van Gundy...that was a factor. Yao still is.
Right now the biggest factors IMO...are Beno and Parker.
I agree that the dynamics have changed somewhat now that the Spurs hold his rights. Assuming that the Spurs do want free of his contract (very likely), then we now have two motivated parties to dissolve a contractual relationship.
In the Rockets' situation, V-Span was the sole motivated party and was going to pay back the Rockets initial overseas buyout and probably a release fee. He desperately wanted his release so that he could sign a lucrative Greek contract.
It could be an interesting real-world example in game theoretical strategy to see what posturing the Spurs and V-Span take. But I do believe that V-Span is too desperate to engage in any buyout sportsmanship.
You must have missed it when Pop felched Karl Malone publicly.
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