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Obviously you still don't get it...
I need not say more... your utter refusal to accept the explanation given on grounds that your lack of comprehension would be exposed, was understandable and yet quite predictable.
Nothing personal...
I hate to say it. But. Good point. The Spurs got ed in that series.
Obviously you still don't get it...
I need not say more... your utter refusal to accept the explanation given on grounds that your lack of comprehension would be exposed, was understandable and yet quite predictable.
Nothing personal...
ok, let's try an analogy (and yes, i lied about not saying anything else on the subject, i just didn't feel like my explaination was plain enough).
if i say i'm going to run slower than mud by running 300 miles per hour, i've obviously screwed up the concept of "slower." by definition, slower means a certain something that NORMALLY means going less than 300 miles per hour. if you accept my logic in the first sentence, however, then you have to change the basic notion, the very definition, of "slower." similarly, he's saying that HE thinks that accepting your rationale would thus force someone to change the very definition of "integrity."
so, when it was stated
the guy is saying that to claim the ref alone caused the series loss is as baseless as rationalizing away the ref's actions and that, to allow the former but not the latter, can only occur by changing the definition of what "integrity" means. and there's nothing wrong with saying it.
Just like you can't claim that Donaghy alone was the reason the Suns lost the series. That strikes the core of integrity itself.
When did I ever make such a claim?
If it was the C's instead of the Spurs Simmons would be singing a different tune. Oh well, he needed to channel that hate somewhere.
The sky is falling.
I'll bet it was all 18 that worked the Suns/Spurs series. You in?
Hey, rocket scientist. You guys won two games.
There's no clear evidence that Game 3 was tampered with yet. Even If it was tampered with (which has NOT been demonstrated), the line was Spurs by 4 and we won by 7. If the line had swung the other way, we might have won by 2 for all anyone knows. For that matter, maybe he was tampering with the O/u instead -- for all we know, he may have helped the Suns more than the Spurs, and the Suns were just too incompetent to take advantage of it.
Whatever comes out, no one will ever know what would have happened if the game had been officiated fairly. To say that it's just a fact that you would have won is just idiocy.
Likewise, you guys lost your dumbass players for Game 5 according to the rules of the NBA. If it hadn't happened, who the knows who would have won? It's certainly not a lock that the Suns walk away with that one, either.
If it turns out that Game 3 was tampered with -- which, again, is still WAY too early to determine -- then it ing sucks, because we'll never know what would have happened if we'd played straight up. But it certainly doesn't mean that the Suns would have won either the series or the le. It just means that we were all robbed of the opportunity to find out for sure.
I'd say that we'll have to settle things in next year's playoffs, except that moron Suns fans like you will probably make excuses again next year when you get your asses kicked about how it's not fair because your ing moron owner is selling off the team out from under you, player by player. So I guess the teams will have to settle it next year, but the whining will go on eternally.
Another asterisk?
SpurFan just can't win.
i meant who ever said "Just like you can't claim that Donaghy alone was the reason the Suns lost the series. That strikes the core of integrity itself"
ET tu, Brute? Et tu?
Another asterisk?
SpurFan just can't win.
Over the years, the Spurs have been screwed over by the refs as much as any team. Donagy worked a couple of playoff games we lost in the '06. But like Bill Walton said, if you didn't hear the Spurs complain after games three and four in Dallas from 2006, you will never hear them complain.
I've lost a lot of respect for Steve Nash. His whining is becoming Kobeish. I wish he would show some class and stfu.
I hope we archive some of these threads so we can call out the people who are dead wrong when all the facts are revealed. I have been a huge critic of referees for years and the Donagy situation didn't surprise me.
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If he altered just one call in any playoff game, the entire playoff season is tainted, hence the *.
Doesn't matter if it was for the Spurs, Magic, Pistons, Warriors, Mavs, Suns, to go O/U, etc.
It's that simple.
because the pistons had no business sweeping the magic?
The teams do not matter. Having games, totals or spreads that are predetermined to go a certain way do...
yes, it matters to those games affected, not the entire playoff. if the fix affects one game, i don't see how that affects everything else so long as no other fixes occur. the rest of the east, if things stay as they are, wasn't affected at all by the spurs-suns. the cavs had little chance against the spurs, jazz, phoenix or golden state.
Seriously, I could give a less about Simmons. He is so overrated.
Oh, we've already won 4 times and planning for more. I don't know what you're talking about
Another asterisk?
SpurFan just can't win.
Crooked ref = possibly tainted ONE game where the Spurs were expected to win.
God, someone contract the ing Phoenix Suns already. They got punked in the 1969 draft, the 1987 draft, the 1976 Finals, and the 1993 Finals. They can't win, and they can't handle it when they lose. Who needs them?
Too bad they won't let the Suns have a rematch with the Spurs.
Because the Spurs would STILL win, but I'm sure their diehard fans such as Simmons would still find someway to justify their whining.
In light of threads like this one, I would actually laugh out loud if we learn later that Donaghy had bet on Game 3, but had taken the Suns.
In any event, threads like this one are perfect evidence of just how disruptive a scandal like this one is and will be to the NBA. It's about the worst thing that could ever happen.
other than, maybe, making the world spend a summer listening to Suns fans. . . .
The same way the Nuggets beat the Sonics in 1994.
Their were those who predicted an upset before the playoffs started this year.
Definitely. I visited some Mav fan relatives in early April who were flatly afraid of meeting the Warriors in the playoffs because the Mavs had sucked against them all year.
Sun fan wants every rule in the rulebook to be perfectly enforced, except possibly the clearest ing one of them all...
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