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  1. #101
    carpe diem johngateswhiteley's Avatar
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    ...just to be clear, i am not attacking you. most people need to find what works for them and makes them happy. seems like you are already on top of that. good luck to you!

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    e20 is gonna get kicked in the nuts while he's thinking about how his biceps will win him a fight.
    Dude, if you're on the ground and the guy is behind you and has you in a headlock or holding you into submission there's not many muscle groups that can help you except your forearms and biceps. I don't see your chest, traps, or triceps helping you that much. Even a punch is fueled by the strength of your forearm. It starts out with your shoulders and triceps and then ends with your forearm adding more power to your fist. Also, if you guys are in a clinch forearm/bicep strength comes in to play as well.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    ...just to be clear, i am not attacking you. most people need to find what works for them and makes them happy. seems like you are already on top of that. good luck to you!
    Sorry, but I get offended easily for some reason when it comes to like this.

  4. #104
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    JohnGates - Why don't you answer my PM? Are you playing in the $250 fantasy football league this season? If not, please let me know so I can fill your spot. Thanks.

    Pardon the interruption, you all can go back to pretending you are studs now

  5. #105
    carpe diem johngateswhiteley's Avatar
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    Dude, if you're on the ground and the guy is behind you and has you in a headlock or holding you into submission there's not many muscle groups that can help you except your forearms and biceps. I don't see your chest, traps, or triceps helping you that much. Even a punch is fueled by the strength of your forearm. It starts out with your shoulders and triceps and then ends with your forearm adding more power to your fist. Also, if you guys are in a clinch forearm/bicep strength comes in to play as well.
    a person generates punching power from their legs, core, some tricep, and the angle of their arm/elbow relative to their body. bone alignment and composition also comes into play.

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    carpe diem johngateswhiteley's Avatar
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    JohnGates - Why don't you answer my PM? Are you playing in the $250 fantasy football league this season? If not, please let me know so I can fill your spot. Thanks.

    Pardon the interruption, you all can go back to pretending you are studs now
    oops, my bad Kori. i forgot.

  7. #107
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    NorCal, just pick up a book called "Starting strength" it's by Mark Ripptoe, it's a good book for what you are looking for, squats, dead lifts, OH press, bench, power cleans, all ya need. :P

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Dude, if you're on the ground and the guy is behind you and has you in a headlock or holding you into submission there's not many muscle groups that can help you except your forearms and biceps. I don't see your chest, traps, or triceps helping you that much. Even a punch is fueled by the strength of your forearm. It starts out with your shoulders and triceps and then ends with your forearm adding more power to your fist. Also, if you guys are in a clinch forearm/bicep strength comes in to play as well.
    i would take a wild guess and say most fights are more about cheap shots, and who hits who first. most get broken up well before a submission hold.

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    carpe diem johngateswhiteley's Avatar
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    i would take a wild guess and say most fights are more about cheap shots, and who hits who first. most get broken up well before a submission hold.
    lol.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    a person generates punching power from their legs, core, some tricep, and the angle of their arm/elbow relative to their body. bone alignment and composition also comes into play.
    Stand up and jab right now and tell me what muscle in the end is being exerted/used, I'll tell you right now, your forearm/shoulder. Thanks.

    Legs/Hips/Roation do come into play. When you mention alignment and angles your putting the physics of it into play and I ain't no adept at that.

    People who want to increase their punching power often do clap pushups or throw-up bench presses and that works out your forearms.

    Bicep strength will help you in a fight, when it gets down and dirty, because a fight isn't going to be straight up jabs.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    i would take a wild guess and say most fights are more about cheap shots, and who hits who first. most get broken up well before a submission hold.
    I've never been in a cheap fight. We're usually on the ground trying to land a punch or a knee. I'm not talking about fights that can be broken up, I'm talking like MMA.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    And I don't even know what the I'm arguing here. It's a waste of time to argue how people should work out or fight, let alone where punching power comes from, because everybody has there own method that works, so I'm wasting my time.

    And in all honesty the only real thing that matters is that I'd PWN you guys in a street fight. :LMAO
    Last edited by E20; 08-11-2007 at 12:16 AM.

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    And I don't even know what the I'm arguing here. It's a waste of time
    And in all honesty the only real thing that matters is that I'd PWN you guys in a street fight. :LMAO
    I'd pwn you at street fighter.

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    I'd pwn you at street fighter.
    rising demon ftw!!!

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Yeah, I was being sarcastic when I said that, hence the LMAO at the end.


    I bet I'm still gonna get flamed, whatever.

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Yeah, I was being sarcastic when I said that, hence the LMAO at the end.


    I bet I'm still gonna get flamed, whatever.
    i doubt it, but i was gonna say something about an MMA fight breaking out in the street.

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    I weigh in at 182lbs @ 6'1

    Not bad.

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    You are a stud.

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    No joke, I had an appointment with my doctor for something unimportant, and i asked him if creatine was okay to take just to prove to you guys that it's gonna you up. he said the protein powder is okay, more protein isn't bad. he then said he wouldn't take creatine... and to be "careful" when taking it, as in it's not GOOD for you.
    When did I say I use creatine?

    You were telling me I was gonna get arthritis because I sometimes bench two days in a row?

  20. #120
    No More Pink NorCal510's Avatar
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    When did I say I use creatine?

    You were telling me I was gonna get arthritis because I sometimes bench two days in a row?
    oh, forget what I said then.

    but still, lifting 2 days in a row isn't healthy.

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    oh, forget what I said then.

    but still, lifting 2 days in a row isn't healthy.
    Why the not? Because you don't do it?


    Whatever your body can take is what's healthy.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I lifted a lot when I was in the military.
    I did upper body, legs, upper body, rest.. repeat and change it up from time to time.
    I did "push" upper body movements one day and "pull" upper body movements the next time, if that makes sense.
    Other gjuys warned me about the b**** s later one but I was one lifting mofo.

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    No More Pink NorCal510's Avatar
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    Why the not? Because you don't do it?


    Whatever your body can take is what's healthy.
    you're ignorant

  24. #124
    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    182? from what i remember from pictures you dont look a pound over 150.

    I consider myself a pretty big guy and there's no way I'm only 18 more pounds than you.

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