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  1. #101
    This same "controversy" is going on with the Big Ten Network, only instead of asking $0.65, they want $1.10 per subscriber, and their program slate has a lot of volleyball and field hockey, and rather than being a for-profit entertainment enterprise, it is the property of a amateur collegiate sports league, several of whose members are taxpayer-supported.

    Normally, I would just laugh, since who gives a flip about Penn State volleyball in Pennsylvania, much less Texas? But I find it disgusting the degree to which government-run ins utions like universities are becoming just another tool for the wealthy to screw the middle class and the poor.

    That seems a different animal from the NFL Network.

  2. #102
    The internet is a mysterious and powerful device, and its mystery is only exceeded by its power. Case in point, I am a Colts fan living in Texas and have seen all of their games so far this year.... I don't have NFL Sunday Ticket or the NFL Network which means I, theoretically, should have been blocked out of at least half of their games so far depending on CBS blackouts. You don't have to go to bars to watch NFL games that are blacked out or on the NFL Network.
    hook it up lol

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    The Great Unknown yavozerb's Avatar
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    Switched over to ATT U-Verse a couple of weeks ago and have been happy with it. I have one of the cheaper packages (59$ cable and 25$ internet) and it comes with NFLnetwork and the big ten channel (which is OK, nothing special).

  4. #104
    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
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    Little help, someone?

  5. #105
    all i know is i have uverse and it is cheaper than twc, has more channels, and has nfl network. twc is full of . if at&t can provide all the services for less, why can't twc???

  6. #106
    UVerse is only available in limited areas. The infrastructure is expensive for them to install, and they are already bumping up against the bandwidth. New technology is always painful to watch mature, too.

  7. #107
    AT&T
    can kiss my rosey irish ass. Hooters has drinks and wings specials for the game.

    Much cheaper than their $80.00 a month basic phone charge.

  8. #108
    Indubitable Super Saiyan Cloud786's Avatar
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    Is there a way to watch this game on the internet tomorrow?

  9. #109
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    Blame the NFL network headed by Jerry Jones!
    Yes I just found out That the President of the NFL Network is Jerry Jones

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    Forum Official Personal Life Coach BacktoBasics's Avatar
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    I believe my.p2p.eu can help you watch the game online. I have not tried but I'm going to try tonight.

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    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
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    Avast, any of ye mateys care to PM a link?

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    Indubitable Super Saiyan Cloud786's Avatar
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    Can anyone PM me a link too if possible?

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    Taco is my Hero!!! Taco's Troll's Avatar
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    all i know is i have uverse and it is cheaper than twc, has more channels, and has nfl network. twc is full of . if at&t can provide all the services for less, why can't twc???
    My daughter has UVerse we saw the game at her house

    i have to say the recepiton is a lot better than TWC

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    So I downloaded some of the software from my.p2p.eu to see the game last. Quality was ty and the buffering sucked but at least I got to see the game.

  17. #117
    Could you imagine if Bryant Gumbel's incoherent stammerings were broadcast to 112 million homes?

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    TW refused arbitration but are currently in last minute negotiations. I'm not holding my breath. If TW wants resolution so bad then why not use a third party, if they would have, the game could have been broadcast for free in the interm. Further proof the TW is the one holding things up here.

  19. #119
    TW refused arbitration but are currently in last minute negotiations. I'm not holding my breath. If TW wants resolution so bad then why not use a third party, if they would have, the game could have been broadcast for free in the interm. Further proof the TW is the one holding things up here.
    There is no innocent party here, just billionaires squabbling over your money and mine. Jones and the NFL are just as stupid, trying to dictate TW's business practices and cable tiers.

  20. #120
    Leonard Doody is my BITCH! Mr Dio's Avatar
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    I wonder if there is enough common sense here to realize that ALL NFL games were, ONCE, free..............

    Thank You NFL (Network) for showing enough greed to blind those without common sense. The NFL thought it could hold anyone & everyone they wanted hostage & make even more money than the HUGE sums regular networks were already paying them. The NFL was partially right & now has people thinking in their heart of hearts that a cable/media/taco/brat/beer company started this whole mess.

    I will prob be watching at a bar because the home I WAS going to watch it at has yet another ATT U-Verse Repair Call pending & aren't being given a guarantee that they'd show up & have issue recitfied in time for the 715pm game!

  21. #121
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    Some of you people need to read the link I provided.
    Here it is again:
    Time Warner's position
    The NFL was offered a channel on PPV to show games on that are on the NFL network at a retail price set by the NFL, at a total profit for the NFL but the NFL refused. The NFL would set the price at whatever they felt like, and get ALL THE REVENUE generated from this. The NFL said no, it is basic cable or nothing. TW is the one making several offers but it is the NFL being stubborn about this.

    I also find it ironic that the only time people are complaining about this impasse is when the Cowboys are playing. The complaining doesn't happen too much when other teams are on. People are rather quiet at other times, in essence people are not concerned about the network is a broadcast en y, they only concern themselves with the Cowboys. What happened to alot of you people when the other games were showing?
    Last edited by cherylsteele; 12-22-2007 at 12:46 PM.

  22. #122
    The game is being shown locally in Dallas on KDFI, correct? For some reason it's listed as "Cowboys Pregame" but lasts from 7 to 10:30.

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    There is no innocent party here, just billionaires squabbling over your money and mine. Jones and the NFL are just as stupid, trying to dictate TW's business practices and cable tiers.
    All the NFL network has ever asked for is to be paid within the same parameters as other "like" channels. TW has refused to do that. The NFL networks asking price is right in line with everyone else's. TW wants to make this a ppv or tier so they can raise their sports tier asking price. The NFL network wants the channel to be available on regular cable which would allow them to advertise accordingly. I think the asking price is right in line the request is reasonable. We'd pay to see the game of course we'd also pay the 15 bucks for the tier but I can appreciate the NFL network wanting to do it as part of regular cable. Not only would it be free like every other football game but it would open up opportunities for the channel to grow into something we'd actually like vs. being pigionholed advertising wise by being a pay or tier channel.

    I'm 100% with the NFL network on this. They even offered 3rd party arbitration for resolution. How more reasonable can it get. They basically said fine TW if you think you're right and its us not you then let a 3rd party hear your plight and rule accordingly. TW refused because TW is greedy and they know that the Networks request are more than reasonable and the arbitrator would rule in favor of the network not TW. I don't see how you can call a reasonable asking price and the ability to make the channel available to everyone "greedy". I felt that way at first but I believe the NFL network has done everything within reason to make this happen, the hold up is TW plain and simple.

    I don't care if paying ppv prices for a game is an option. If that happens it will create a landslide storm and set a precedent we really don't want.
    Last edited by BacktoBasics; 12-22-2007 at 01:20 PM.

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    Steele Curtain cherylsteele's Avatar
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    All the NFL network has ever asked for is to be paid within the same parameters as other "like" channels.
    You mean other channels like NBA TV, Bevo, etc., that are already on the sports tier? I have also heard the when MLB start their channel they have already agreed to place that on the sports tier.

    I see nobody has mentioned that Jerry Jones is personally advertising for Dish Network. I say conflict of interest here. I have a feeling he has some monetary interest in that provider, why else would he advertise for them and not Direct TV, Comcast, etc?

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    yes available over the airwaves, but how do you access those channels? right, just like the majority of others. Basic cable is the standard.
    You don't need cable for free over the airwaves, just a TV, and a decent pair of rabbit ears.

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