Spurs Sign Ian Mahinmi (Now Official)

[JUUOT]

I usually have them straight. But for some reason Sanikidze gives me fits.

Sanikidze will give fit to many more than you. be honored LOL

[AFBlue]

NBDL regular rotation guy.. he will never make the team...

He's got a two-year guaranteed deal for the Spurs to see what he's got and a third-year option if he's intriguing enough to keep evaluating.

He does have a LONG way to go, but the Spurs needed to bring him over to see whether he's in this team's long-term future.

He isn't going to play much, if at all, this year so he is essentially replacing Jackie Butler.

My only concern with the moves this summer is that the Spurs have gotten rid of two players with considerable ability on offense, and have replaced them with two players that have a long way to go in that regard.

Granted Mahinmi and Splitter have shown much more commitment to defense and are young enough to develop in areas they're currently lacking. BUT, as much as it pains me to say it, the Spurs will not be able to rely on Duncan's offensive prowess in the post forever and if these two ARE to be key pieces to the future of this team, they'll need to learn how to be at least capable offensive players in order for the Spurs to continue to succeed.

I didn't mean to go all doomsday, but....

Bottom Line: Spurs have two potentially good defensive, role-players on their frontline for the future....but my concern is that neither has the overall game to take over when Timmy begins his decline.

Note: I'm not suggesting that ANY of the Spurs frontline prospects of the present or future will be a Duncan replacement, because that's just foolish...

[mathbzh]

Bottom Line: Spurs have two potentially good defensive, role-players on their frontline for the future....but my concern is that neither has the overall game to take over when Timmy begins his decline.

Note: I'm not suggesting that ANY of the Spurs frontline prospects of the present or future will be a Duncan replacement, because that's just foolish...

The odd of finding a future dominant big with offensive and defensive skills in the late first round are not very high.
If Tiago and Ian can end up being good defensive bigs I would consider them as very good pick. If one of them end up being a legitimate offensive option... he would be a great pick.

[mathbzh]

And I just realise that Tiago is pretty good on the offensive end.

[ducks]

He's got a two-year guaranteed deal for the Spurs to see what he's got and a third-year option if he's intriguing enough to keep evaluating.

He does have a LONG way to go, but the Spurs needed to bring him over to see whether he's in this team's long-term future.

He isn't going to play much, if at all, this year so he is essentially replacing Jackie Butler.

My only concern with the moves this summer is that the Spurs have gotten rid of two players with considerable ability on offense, and have replaced them with two players that have a long way to go in that regard.

Granted Mahinmi and Splitter have shown much more commitment to defense and are young enough to develop in areas they're currently lacking. BUT, as much as it pains me to say it, the Spurs will not be able to rely on Duncan's offensive prowess in the post forever and if these two ARE to be key pieces to the future of this team, they'll need to learn how to be at least capable offensive players in order for the Spurs to continue to succeed.

I didn't mean to go all doomsday, but....

Bottom Line: Spurs have two potentially good defensive, role-players on their frontline for the future....but my concern is that neither has the overall game to take over when Timmy begins his decline.

Note: I'm not suggesting that ANY of the Spurs frontline prospects of the present or future will be a Duncan replacement, because that's just foolish...

not saying he is going to replace duncan but alot of people said david was not replaceable then they got a fellow named duncan

[mathbzh]

not saying he is going to replace duncan but alot of people said david was not replaceable then they got a fellow named duncan

BUt he was not a #28 pick

[tp time]

cool, one more french

[Freeze]

BUt he was not a #28 pick

Ian was drafted at 18 yo as an unknown european prospect, TD at 21 as the best NCAA player.

I figure as an undrafted prospect, and with one more year of developpement overseas, he may have been a top 10 pick in next year's draft...

[ducks]

they are several stars that are not number one draft picks

[Freeze]

cool, one more french

Yeah I'm glad TP will be able to help him to accustom to SA, and explain him wich donuts prefer each players

[Supergirl]

This is a GREAT signing, I think.

And this is why they were willing to let Scola go. Scola and Mahinmi play the same positions, and both have tons of talent and upside, but they're both going to wait behind Duncan (and Oberto, Horry, and Bonner) for minutes. But in 5-6 years when Duncan is either retired or in his last years, Mahinmi should be in his prime, at only 25-26 years old. Whereas Scola will be 33 or 34 -- just about done. So, he makes more sense for the Spurs, in terms of planning for the future.

[JUUOT]

The odd of finding a future dominant big with offensive and defensive skills in the late first round are not very high.

it statistically gets even lower when you already found a dominant point guard with offensive and defensive skills in the late first round not so long ago.

Even for both tiago and Ian to become regular nba player would be quite an achievement.

[JUUOT]

To put things in perspectives, spurs kept only 4 first round draft picks in the last 9 drafts. All picks were in the late 20's most of which 28 i think

Parker in 2001
udrih in 2004
mahinmi in 2005
splitter in 2007

They got a all star point guard and a borderline regular nba player (at least regular backup on most other teams i would guess)
if both mahinmi and splitter crack the rotation it would be a significant rate of success by the spurs staff. If one of the 2 become a starter you can hardly ask for more...

[BronxCowboy]

it statistically gets even lower when you already found a dominant point guard with offensive and defensive skills in the late first round not so long ago.

Even for both tiago and Ian to become regular nba player would be quite an achievement.

I understand your point and agree that it would be amazing if the Spurs have found multiple keepers at the 28 pick. However, to be a stickler, past events have no bearing on the odds of future events unless said future event is contingent upon the outcome of said past event.

[Holt's Cat]

And yet, you failed to call it.

Sad, really.

And I am by no means taking credit. I hoped it would happen and I'm glad it did.

You're upset we didn't spend "whatever" on "whomever" -- you've never had any real suggestions or even a real take the last three years.

Pussy.

Yawn. I called it 2 months ago when I said the Spurs preferred Splitter and Mahinmi on rookie deals to Butler and Scola. Go rub your pussy a little, it might make you feel better.

[T Park]

He averaged 3 points and 2 rebounds over in the Euroleague. Why is everyone so excited? Because the Spurs drafted him so he must be good? Color me unimpressed.

he was also screwed minutes wise, and is only 20 years old.

Chill.

[preincarnate]

A big man that plays inside and guards the rim isn't that likely to get lots of minutes in a Euro league. If he had a J from 20 feet he would be playing a ton. But that's a main difference between Euro and NBA- Ian's game is much more suited to the NBA (and especially the Spurs). Being able to stick him in the D-League and learn the system while playing 20-30 minutes per game should be good for him. Let's hope he realizes his potential.

[Darkwaters]

Ian was drafted at 18 yo as an unknown european prospect, TD at 21 as the best NCAA player.

Then again we drafted Tony Parker in his late teens with about the same number pick as we got Mahinmi. He was not an established player at all and had been playing with a team named Paris Basket Racing. And now hes the reigning finals MVP.

The Spurs have been capable of finding absolute gems in the rough in the past. I don't think it is unrealistic to imagine the Spurs seeing something in Mahinmi and him becoming a quality rotation player within a year or two if not a starter. Time will tell. While I don't expect Mahinmi to be a starter within 5 games (a la, Tony Parker) I do expect that his cheap rookie contract will be a worthwhile investment.

[ChumpDumper]

Yawn. I called nothing -- I just ed about spending the full MLE on anybody without even bothering to find out who is available and pussed out when asked directly whom the Spurs should sign. I haven't had a legit take since Malik was traded. I am truly a pussy in every sense of the word.

[objective]

Then again we drafted Tony Parker in his late teens with about the same number pick as we got Mahinmi. He was not an established player at all and had been playing with a team named Paris Basket Racing. And now hes the reigning finals MVP.

Parker was more established than Mahinmi by far by my memory. Parker was at the McDonalds games. Parker had numerous pre-draft workouts and was thought to be a certain first rounder. In all probability if Red Auerbach hadn't been in love with Joe Forte and used his influence or if Doc Rivers didn't hate point guards under 6-4 then Parker would have been drafted higher.

Mahinmi was a back-up in teen euro tourney to Johan Petro and had barely become a starter in France iirc. He didn't even have a name placard to put up in MSG during the draft.

[Holt's Cat]

Chumper has become whottt.

[ChumpDumper]

And you became Sequ three years ago.

[Holt's Cat]

1 minute response time. Come on Piker.

[ShoogarBear]

However, to be a stickler, past events have no bearing on the odds of future events unless said future event is contingent upon the outcome of said past event.

Well, that's assuming that the success of a draft pick is just a random event. While there is some luck involved, one could argue that some organizations are better than others at evaluating talent, and thus if they have done a better job in the past are more likely to do a better job in the future.

[Solid D]

Chumper has become whottt.

Impossible.