Sweet study, but what's up with the Jack-O-Lantern candles?
Uh, yeah, Finley is still pretty much done. He hit his threes for the most part in the playoffs but the athleticism we saw in the '06 playoffs was gone in the '07 playoffs.
And? My stance on Scola was the same back then, too.
As you said, adding Scola would complete the experiment. So adding Scola = your excitement.
Since then you've homered out and went back to being fully anti-Scola. If you were anti-Scola the whole time, you would have been against an Argentina experiment that included Scola.
Your takes change so often and without reason that you can't help for some of them to be right even if you contradict your own take a couple posts later.
So you still think that Pop should have benched Finley like he did with Smith in '03 ?
That doesn't make sense. You said Horry could be let go because the Spurs could opt out of his contract. He wouldn't have to be let go if he elects to retire.
You brought Ferry into the equation when you guaranteed that Barry's last year of his contract wasn't guaranteed. How'd that work out?
Spurs would have won the championship either way. Finley awoke from his Horry-like slumber to play better than expected but he wasn't a championship deciding player.
False... I said Nocioni would complete the experiment. Scola was a worst case scenario for that experiment.
Dude...I've never liked Scola...I've accepted that he might end up being part of the team when getting piled on by the entire board and Ludden telling me I am jumping to conclusions...about him being an asshole and the Spurs not wanting him.
Since then you've homered out and went back to being fully anti-Scola. If you were anti-Scola the whole time, you would have been against an Argentina experiment that included Scola.
Your takes change so often and without reason that you can't help for some of them to be right even if you contradict your own take a couple posts later.
LMAO...I'ver never been Pro Scola or excited about the idea of him playing here...I've also never thougth he was going to translate well to the NBA on his own merits....
Whether or not he is an asshole is entirely my subjective conclusion...of course I am not going to assume I am all knowing on things it is not possible for me to be all knowing about...
But my gut feeling has always been that's he's an asshole and I wouldn't want him on my team...lo and behold...the Spurs agreed.
I remember timvp blaming whottt for never admitting when he was wrong and he did the same thing...
If you want a good laugh, here's a thread by whottt claiming that Scola would have been the #1 top overall pick in the 2005 draft.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20490
whottt at that point was a much bigger fan of Scola than timvp was. Just more proof that whottt's opinions change with the wind.
You guys just be sure to showup when Scola starts sucking a few weeks into the season...as teams figure out how to stop his pet moves.
If you want a good laugh, here's a thread by whottt claiming that Scola would have been the #1 top overall pick in the 2005 draft.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20490
whottt at that point was a much better fan of Scola than timvp was. Just more proof that whottt's opinions change with the wind.
I've already admitted I overestimated his value to other teams...
Have you?
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Pop and RC
You never liked Scola but you thought he should have been the number one overall pick of the 2005 NBA draft?
Overestimated his value to other teams? You are saying he WOULD have been the number one overall pick.
The most classic part of that thread is whottt says that timvp and Marcus Bryant are being too harsh on Scola.
You completely misunderstand the point of that post....
At no point in that thread do I say I like Scola and think he's a great player...
I'm saying where I think he would have been drafted that year based on beginning hype plus his accomplishments.
At no point do I say I even want him on hte tem and like him...
If it's not to hard to figure out...I was trying to figure out his trade value.
I also overestimated his trade value this summer thinking we could get Nocioni or Wallace for him....the primary motive for my call out thread...
The other teams weren't as stupid as I thought they were...only the Scola fans on this board are that stupid unfortunately.
Yeah...because he was projected as a lottery pick in 2002 if not for his contract issues...before Indianapolis, before the Olympics...before his Euroleague MVP. And he'd only upped his status since then.
THat doesn't mean I liked him or thought he could help the Spurs win a le...only that I thought he had tremendous value to other teams and would be projected as the #1 pick in that draft.
Alas...he wasn't and, he never did.
I get it now...do you?
You the one saying we turned down all the better offers...
You are saying the same thing now because of what he just did in the TOA...you are saying that upped his value and the Spurs could have gotten more...I say...I'm not so sure.
Even if whottt's take about Scola being the top overall pick is kinda crazy, Scola's trade value was way higher in 05 than in 07.
Between 05 and 07, he has choked a lot in Europe and with Argentina, put the same stats and been 2 years older.
Eventhe great timvp
I don't get it. Are you trying to tell me I was right? I would ask for a link but I guess I can live with being right without having to see it attributed.Even
Actually, it's pretty funny that whottt and Bruno are trying to gang up on me about Scola. Both of these guys before the trade happened said they'd be mad if the Spurs trade Butler and Scola for a 2nd rounder. The Spurs trade Butler and Scola for a second rounder and now they are two of the biggest supporting of the trade on the board.
On the other hand, I said the Spurs need to get better than a second round pick for Scola and Butler. The Spurs didn't so instead of changing my view, I stick with it.
I guess I missed the memo that all Spurs fans have to homer out to whatever move they make.
Hey...I definitely wanted more for Scola than we got.
I'm with you in thinking Kobe for Scola would have been a good trade...
Difference is? I realize the Spurs couldn't get more than they got...and I also think Vassilis was a bigger part of the reason they did that trade than anyone wants to admit.
Fixed.
Did you read the thread?
You are historically one of the biggest Malik Rose defenders on the forum. You comparing Scola to Malik Rose is giving Scola a big thumbs up. Either that or you never really like Rose as much as you said you did.
Your viewpoint on Scola changed so much over the years, it's amazing. I used to think you were steadfast in your hate toward him but the more I research your posts, the more I realize your opinion changed with the wind.
I rescind the offer of a toast to you. I've kept the same take on Scola throughout. You're take on him changed daily. I was never that impressed with him but given that, I still wasn't on board with the idea of giving him away. I always said the Spurs should have called his bluff to wait until '08.
And I stand by that. I guess you can stand by 50% of your posts that you hated him while forgetting the other 50% of your posts.
I'm telling you that a lot of people were higher on Scola in 2005 than in 2007.
whottt and timvp have that in common.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...7&postcount=27
Link ?
I have always said that I didn't like this trade.
And timvp hating the trade has more to do with Butler than Scola.
BS.....
It takes a lot of energy to hate and I can't keep a full hate on 24/7.
More importantly...if everyone is sitting there saying everything is fine and dandy and Scola is coming...it doesn't do me much good to hate.
I've never thought Scola was a great player ever...period. I've never creamed over the idea of signing him...
And most importantly, and what you fail to realize...I've never gotten upset over the idea of moving him...in fact I've been decidedly in favor of it every time it was being debated as a serious move.
You see the inconsistencies you want to see...half the time you don't even get the point I am making.
It's not like I am saying, sign Scola or our lives are over...
Like you were saying, Robert Horry shouldn't be on the court in the 4th....ever.
Notice how I don't have to frame a quote in the context I chose? I can just link the thread and the owning is obvious...
Well, yeah, I don't think anyone would come to the conclusion that Scola rotting on Tau for two years would somehow raise his value. However, must of us didn't think Scola could have been the number one overall pick of the 2005 NBA draft.
Damn, I'm good. I forgot about that.
Thanks.
Link of you supporting the trade? It's all over the forum. Your "I didn't like it at first but after thinking about it I like it" takes have been numerous. You really need me to link it for you?
But now you supposedly understand it and support it. Unless that was a different Bruno . . .
Link?
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