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Um. Watching a player spot up for 4 seconds at the elbow without so much as lifting a hand....
Do you think ANYONE on the Spurs could do that without Pop screaming in their face for it?
Good execution does not account for lazy defense.
Jordan won all of his les in the 90’s….
I agree that defense was not as much of an emphasis in the 80’s, but you can’t forget that teams in general executed much better offensively, ran a lot more and had dudes that could actually shoot. Now the argument is was that due to the execution, or the defense. The chicken or the egg……
Um. Watching a player spot up for 4 seconds at the elbow without so much as lifting a hand....
Do you think ANYONE on the Spurs could do that without Pop screaming in their face for it?
Good execution does not account for lazy defense.
I don't recall dudes being given 4 seconds to shoot. Either way, MJ won ALL of his les in the 90's.....
I was referring to the late 80s and 90's, dont forget about the bad boy piston teams.
The reason I include the 80s in the golden years was because of Magic, Bird, and all the high scoring. The defense didn't come around untill the very end of the 80s and throughout the 90s.
Yes, David Robinson was a choker. That may be blasphemous here, but it is the truth. That was the general perception of him pre-Duncan: Robinson wasn't good enough to get his team over the hump and win a ring on his own.
And say what you will about 03, when Robinson's back was going out and he barely played.... but he was still a superstar on the 1999 champions. GP never came close to that with the Heat. And at least Robinson had the decency to retire after his final ring. Look at Payton. He chased a ring in LA and then did the same thing in Miami. And he still stuck around afterward. , he still won't retire even after Pat Riley said he didn't want him back.
Yes Robinson choked
Elliot was the closest thing he ever had to a second wheel, and Elliot while special was not a second superstar.
Some people just want to throw the word choker out there, even if said player has given everything he could to get his team to the promised land. Sometimes the stars dont align for everyone, doesnt mean that the players are chokers. Reggie Miller was one of the most clutch players Ive ever seen, he just ran into better teams.Yes Robinson choked
Elliot was the closest thing he ever had to a second wheel, and Elliot while special was not a second superstar.
MJ was one of the few athletes who not only lived up to the hype , but surpassed it with his play. I don't think any team will match up to the 96 Bulls for awhile , but the 93 team and the 98 team would be a good match-up against our 2005 squad....still think MJ would have figured out a way to beat us though.
Mitch you are just wrong here, plain and simple. Not every player is a choker just because they don't win it all. Sometimes luck just doesn't fall your way and you run into better teams. Like Mardigan said, Reggie was clutch but just never had the right team to go all the way. Stockton and Malone weren't chokers, but always ran into MJ's Bulls. happens
Ok guys let me sort everything out. The problem with you spurs fans (no disrespect to the team) is you guys seem to pick spurs over the bulls just because you're a spurs fan. You don't base it on evidence.
Here's evidence why bulls are better than the spurs.
On my other post, I wanted to see from you guys which San antonio spurs team was the best. Most of you guys said the 1999 team was the best. The roster on the 1999 team was the same roster on the 1998 team. During the 1998 season, the bulls (the old, done with their prime) bulls swept the spurs in the season that year.
LMAO at this thread.
The Spurs are coming off the most tainted championship in NBA history and you want to compare them to Jordan's Bulls?
They aren't even the best team in the league NOW. Third, at best, and slipping!
I think that depends....
Would the officials let a push off at the crucial closing moments of a game go by or would they call a foul when it's supposed to be called, superstar or not?
Would Stern suspend Pippen and Kukoc?
If they came off the bench during an altercation.
But that's the difference, these guys at full strength (The Bulls) would win the championship. Can't say the same about Phoenix at full strength.
Let me go ahead and say that the Bulls would beat the Spurs.
But it's hard to compare eras. There wasn't a Jordan-caliber player before the Jordan era, and there wasn't one after....
All I know is, the Spurs have won four championships in the nine seasons since the current NBA era began. No other team has won that many in the same time span. Nor does any other team hold the highest winning percentage in all pro sports since then.
He pushed off because Byron Russel was all over him. They were allowed to play rough back then and that's just how it goes. That foul wouldn't have been called regardless whether it was the regular season or game 7 of the finals.
Why are you guys talking about different eras. As I said the 1999 spurs that won the le that year got swept in the season by Chicago the previous year (The roster in 1999 was also the same in 1998)
robinsons spurs fare well with the bull encounters in the regular seasons...i see no difference
LOL it's a dream come true if my site had arguments like these
Jordan's Bulls had seasons of 72, 69, and 67 wins. They have the two greatest seasons in league history for crying out loud.
You think Mighty Mouse could beat up Superman? I saw him on television the other day, he was holding five elephants in one hand.
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The 1998 Spurs were not at all the same team as 1999.
It would be a good series. Jordan never faced a great post guy like Tim at his best. I think the 99 team would have beat the Bulls had Jordan come back for one more year no doubt about it, Spurs would have ended their dynasty.
Anyone could beat Supes. He's a godmoding, idealistic, sissy. Batman>Superman. End of ing story.
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