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So because he was charged with one he actually committed one? How many cops does it take to put cuffs on someone anyways? Looks like the cops felt like hitting him up with a little juice just because.
I heard somewhere that the kid is a real troublemaker and once held up a sign revealing the end of the latest Harry Potter book. Clearly, that makes it OK to use a Tazer on him.
P.S. The device was used in "Drive Stun" mode, which does not incapacitate the target, but rather simply inflicts a large amount of pain. Clearly, a true patriot will lie still while experiencing this, rather than writhing around like a troublemaker. Extra points are awarded if you simply scream, "Freedom!"
So because he was charged with one he actually committed one? How many cops does it take to put cuffs on someone anyways? Looks like the cops felt like hitting him up with a little juice just because.
Actually he had already committed the crime (disturbing a public event) before resisting.
I can't tell whether he was fully handcuffed or not. I assume they were telling him to comply and threatening with the taser if he didn't. Dude shouldn't have resisted.
Why is it that when politics moves outside of the soundbite it's criminal?
That's disturbing a public event? C'mon.
You can't ever go off script in today's America.
I didn't write the laws -- take it up with the DA and the Florida legislature. He had actually already disrupted it once by rushing the mic and demanding his questions be answered because it looked like the ~25 minute Q&A session was ending. The police wanted to take him away then but Kerry called them off. That's why they were standing right behind him when the nicely edited video starts.
So it's a crime to try to question a US Senator?
Guilty until proven innocent.
It's a crime to disturb a public event in Florida.Show me where guilt must be proven before an arrest can be made.Guilty until proven innocent.
Once again, non-lethal stun weapons are used to subdue subjects for the safety of all involved. In numerous studies there has been no evidence that the stun gun itself causes a death, the deaths were usually attributed to immune deficiencies from heavy drug use or from complications suffered during the struggle itself. Besides, don't resist arrest. If you don't want your ass shocked or beaten down then dont resist. You're not going to get away. Just go along.
Well, you did say a crime had occurred.
Guilty until proven innocent?? HAHAHAHAHAHA
That phrase get's thrown around so much ignorant people like this fellow don't even know where it applies anymore.
Whether the kid was resisting arrest or not, guidelines regarding the use of force would require that the target be dangerous or violent, and that he in fact violently resist arrest, for a Taser to be used to subdue him.
It is exceedingly difficult, given the video evidence, to conclude that the officers were in any kind of danger that would justify the use of a Taser.
It is not acceptable to conclude that because the target was resisting arrest, and had already been warned that he might be 'Tazed,' that the use of the weapon was justified under the cir stances.
Besides all that, the mode in which the weapon was used is noted by the manufacturer to lead to "prolonged struggles" since it does not incapacitate the target.
A competent police officer could have taken that kid out quickly with a lot less fanfare, but the Tazer is a really cool new toy, and the cops can use it to show a snot-nosed kid who's boss.
There was ample evidence a crime had occurred for the police to act.
"get's"? Check your own self first whisky breath.
Actually, you don't have the guidelines for the UF police and neither do I, so let's not pretend we do. At least one source says his resisting indictment is a felony, meaning resisting with violence.
Depends on the guidelines. The Chief intimated that there only had to be a threat of an officer's being injured. At that point that may have been the case.It is exceedingly difficult, given the video evidence, to conclude that the officers were in any kind of danger that would justify the use of a Taser.
Ok, it just proves what a dumbass this guy is. I'm fine with that.It is not acceptable to conclude that because the target was resisting arrest, and had already been warned that he might be 'Tazed,' that the use of the weapon was justified under the cir stances.
I wouldn't say it's new. If you'd rather they clubbed him, just say so.Besides all that, the mode in which the weapon was used is noted by the manufacturer to lead to "prolonged struggles" since it does not incapacitate the target.
A competent police officer could have taken that kid out quickly with a lot less fanfare, but the Tazer is a really cool new toy, and the cops can use it to show a snot-nosed kid who's boss.
So the cops should've been able to determine the sentence then and there, no?
Takeaway: Do not resist arrest.
Don't get between a US Senator and his ride back to his Lear jet.
No. Not their job. I'm perfectly fine with leaving the judgment of the police actions up to the Florida officials who will review them. I can also say with some certainty that this man had multiple opportunities to stop the tasing before it happened.
Actually passive resistance would have been quite effective, avoided a felony indictment and still gotten him on YouTube. But I guess moveon.org needs new bloggers; a self-made martyr is as good as anyone.
The cops had him immobilized on the ground and a weapon needed to be used? Because he might say something? What has happened to this country?
After watching the video a few more times, I am completely reversing my position. After being nearly carried out by the large cop, the young man has an opportunity to leave the auditorium peacefully, but instead tries to run back towards the senator. When two or three officers attempt to restrain him from doing so, he resists them violently. At this point the other three officers jump in, and the target is Tazed in order to induce pain compliance so that he can be handcuffed. Until the man makes that lunge to try to run back into the auditorium, there is not even an attempt to handcuff him, just to remove him.
Had that been Secret Service rather than U of F police, the target might have been shot and killed. Had he gotten past those officers, there was nobody between him and a U.S. Senator. Probably he's just a drama queen looking to make a scene, but you can't assume that.
It looks bad and produced a negative emotional response, but after repeated review, I guess I can't fault the officers for what they did. The use of force was justified after all.
Who was he running at when he was on the ground? They had control of his ass before they popped him.
I pissed off Ken Griffey, Jr.
A True Story
BY ANDREW MEYER
I pissed off Ken Griffey, Jr. Before I explain how, let me repeat that for a second: I pissed off Ken Griffey, Jr. So here’s what happened:
I went to see the Marlins play the Cincinnati Reds on May 31, 2004, and sat eight rows behind home plate. My real seat was way up in the upper deck, so I was practically forced to sneak into a better section. Anyway, in the top of the seventh, Sean Casey came up to bat with a man on first and one out. Before I delve into my tale, let me give some background info.
For those who don’t know, a mere week earlier, the Marlins were in Cincinnati for a three game stretch. In the middle of the first game, Casey, the Reds’ hulking first baseman, comes up to bat with one out and a man on first. Casey was batting near .400, and tearing up the league, so Marlins manager Jack McKeon opted to intentionally walk him in order to face – who else – Ken Griffey, Jr. Now, Griffey is a sure-fire first-ballot Hall-Of-Fame guy, 7 homers away from 500 for his career at the time. So he was kind of peeved, understandably. Naturally, Griffey smacks a 3 run homer, winning the game for the Reds. But as he rounds the bases, he glares over at McKeon, in disgust. He denies this action later, but it’s too late. Now the Marlins are offended. Brad Penny and Josh Beckett take exception to Griffey’s action, and fire up the team. The Marlins take the final two games in the series.
Now, you have to know this about me: I am huge Marlins fan, and a born heckler. My purpose in life is to badger, jeer, and cajole professional athletes. I have angered two other All-Star baseball players, Bobby Abreu and Odalis Perez, on separate occasions. I have booed singers that mess up the national anthem. Heck, I’ll even heckle other hecklers if I don’t care for their stuff. What happened during this particular game was destined to be, the paths of Griffey and I on a collision course.
With Sean Casey about to step into the batter’s box, I spy Griffey in the on deck circle. Knowing full well the previous week’s events, I was almost forced to do what I did.
“WALK CASEY TO GET TO GRIFFEY!” I shouted at the top of my lungs. “WALK CASEY TO GET TO GRIFFEY!”
I now not only had the attention of my entire section, but Griffey himself turned an eye in my direction, and began to stare. I was on my feet, and he spotted me immediately. I was nowhere near done with this.
“WE WANT GRIFFEY!” I screamed, deliriously. “WE WANT GRIFFEY!”
There was no question about it now. Griffey was staring me down, angry. Instantly I realized what I had done. I had twisted the lion’s tail, awakened a sleeping giant, rousted the dragon from his lair.
“If he hits one out it’s on your head!” the man next to me shrieked. I grinned sheepishly. Casey stepped into the box. Ball one. I began to squirm in my seat. Ball two. When the umpire called that second ball, I knew down in my gut everything that would happen next. Casey walked on four pitches. Griffey walked to the plate, still glaring in my direction. The pitcher winds, delivers --- Strike one.
“That’s right Griffey! You’re nothing!” I yell.
Griffey knocks the next one out of the park. As he rounds third, he points right into the stands behind home plate, right at me. My friend would tell me later, the radio play-by-play man on 560 would assume Griffey was pointing to his family in the stands. Only the people around me knew better. As he touched home, Griffey still had that angry look on his face, and he was still glaring in my direction. The crowd was in shock.
“You idiot! He hit that because of you!”
The next time Griffey entered the on deck circle was in the ninth. He did not look pleased, and he did not look pleased AT ME.
“Uh, hey Griffey, I was just kidding,” I managed. “JUST KIDDING!”
Griffey struck out swinging.
The Marlins lost nine to seven that day, beaten by Ken Griffey, Jr.’s home run. I didn’t say another word.
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He's a bag, but even bags don't deserve to be hit with a Taser.
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