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he's a ing whiner. when has he ever not be "disgruntled." send his ass back to europe. ing whining euro.
That's probably right, althought it would be nice if there could somehow be a team in Lithuania (too small) or the Balkans (too politically difficult to have just one team).
The other big issue about having the NBA in Europe is economics. There's already a problem with US players not wanting to play for Toronto because of bigger taxes: how would that work in Europe?
Second, the US/Eur exchange rate is pretty good for you now, but what happends when it isn't? That US$50-60 million dollar/year salary roster suddenly becomes a lot more expensive. Are ticket prices going to fluctuate with the dollar?
Finally, I can easily envision that US players will do everything to get out of playing for European teams, and vice versa. I that what you really want the league to be: the US players all on US teams and European players all on European teams?
he's a ing whiner. when has he ever not be "disgruntled." send his ass back to europe. ing whining euro.
Now was that really necessary?
Or true...
I not sure how it work in Spain but with CSKA in Moscow prett sure team pay ALL tax and player expense.
But in Greece, Panathinaikos pay all player tax, all salary player be nets money, team pay ALL player expense, team pay ALL cost player bills, player house, player car, player debt, even pay any bill after player leave to go back country if player not Greek!
Most player Panathinaikos make much more money NBA same player. At least double.
Unfortunately you are right here. Even though these people would have the most passion for it both are simply way too small markets and as you said.... most nations in Balkans cant stand each other nowadays.
I guess we will forever have to be happy with our players playing on "foreign" teams.
But if they were NBA teams they would be limited by the Collective Bargaining Agreement. I'm not sure how many of those things they can do and not have it count as salary against the salary cap.
And they'd still be in Greece.
Greece is the word...
No in as govern have made it where athlete have pay 28% tax, now increases 40% tax. But see Olympiakos and Panathinaikos pay it ALL.
See NBA player say get $5,356,000 yours MLE usual pay for most good free agent, this be about €3,700,000.
US player pay maybe 40% tax yes? Not sure, but this be tax as. Also this be pays same as 40%.
But US team make player pay tax. In as player pay tax amounts then, team pay player back for amounts of tax.
So in US NBA MLE be worth of $3,213,600, but in as it be worth $5,356,000. You sees this be why player like Saras, Spanoulis, Greer, Pavlovic, Varejao, Webber and such player be so interest now.
Spanoulis have tell me he get more thans 3 time amount money from PAo than he get if stay Spurs. Thinks this way. Tim Duncan he join PAO he gets more money than he make now with Spurs as long PAO under NBA salary caps.
Also bes actual on game ticket PAO have sold 4,000 season ticket in one day on the day Saras sign!
Yes, but under the NBA rules, the amount as used to pay back the player would count as "salary" toward the salary cap.
In Europe there's no salary cap, right? So this isn't an issue.
Also, in the NBA there a fixed salary structure. You wouldn't be able to work around it by paying taxes and saying that's not part of the salary.
No you misinterpret. Salary already be count by team in as. So it same now as NBA salary cap. You sees NBA player be list he sign say 10 million for 2 year it be not net.
You see Greek player 10 million 2 year it be net salary list. But same both be for salary cap. Because as Oly and PAO already count tax pays by team as budget. Same exact as NBA no different, just NBA salary listing be not net, as you call grosses of wage and Greece list salary be nets of wage.
But salary be lists by team not include so you see as team already have pay this as part of budget. So if PAO say they spends say 25 million player they actual spend 40 million and this on and so.
But already yes team have count 40 million for budget. Budget could be like salary cap figures. It just that each team be set budget. But the ways it be counted same exact as NBA count.
If as pay Tim Duncan more nets wage than Spurs they count the wage plus all tax team pay in budget number, just like NBA.
No difference, just mean player keep more money. Like Spanoulis have say when sign with Rockets he lucky because Texas have less tax than other NBA places. Same thing, salary all be counts same as any other team just player keep more.
If there's no difference, then players don't keep any more money. This "players don't play taxes" nonsense is a s game. Players make money, players pay taxes, only in Europe they do it through the teams.No difference, just mean player keep more money
Have you found the ESPN and NBA reports about the European expansion that has already been approved yet?
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In Europe, all the clubs were paying their players with perks like cars, apartments, houses. The clubs paid for everything. This was especially true in the former Soviet Union. If the clubs say they want to pay the players taxes as a benefit, then so be it. In the end, it's how much money a player takes to the bank after taxes and it's going to be higher as KillBill has stated.
All that is counted as player compensation by the NBA, so there's no reason to brag about it. If Euro clubs are ready to count all that as player compensation, bravo.
The team pay the ALL the player salary TAX in Greece. But the whole salary PLUS tax be counted on salary budget of team. What so hard to understand?
How many time have be discusses? See if team in Europe report player make $5 million it be NETS of his salary. BUT this NOT be same as TEAM salary. TEAM salary be 5 million PLUS tax amount, not 5 million minus tax amount.
In NBA team NOT be pays player salary plus be pays player tax. You think Spur paspays Duncan salary PLUS all tax? Euro team ALREADY bes counts player pa PLUS tax.
So when you sees story Saras get $14 millions or some things like thia that NOT team pay number, JUST player pay number.
Team pays taxes and other things already bes counts team in Europe. You seems not be understands simple thing. It ALREADY be counts as salary for team as you say "if willing to change" why change to what be already this way?
It's very easy to understand. I don't know why you think there is some advantage to it. It's just a different way of listing a salary. No amount of
The team pay the ALL the player salary TAX in Greece. But the whole salary PLUS tax be counted on salary budget of team. What so hard to understand?
So where is the US report about the finalized NBA expansion into Europe?
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You keeps say if Euro team be willing to change to count all these salary on cap number. They ALREADY count in cap number.It's very easy to understand. I don't know why you think there is some advantage to it. It's just a different way of listing a salary. No amount of
You seems very easy confuse. NBA salary be same thing paper report. Greece salary paper report different team salary.
What you so confuses on this? Team already have to count tax as player salary plus car and house and everything team ALREADY have to add it to player salary and already report it to Euroleague.
It just paper not report it because how paper knows how much player bill or house be???
Not at all.You seems very easy confuse.It would have to be reported in the NBA along with everything else, which is all you have been ing about. Why are you so confused about this?It just paper not report it because how paper knows how much player bill or house be???
It have to be reported in Euroleague too!!! You must have problem my bad English or you just refsue listens.
To whom? What are the player compensation caps in each European league?It have to be reported in Euroleague too!!!
The most recent article I have found states this:http://www.24sec.net/article.asp?index=3851
That's a little under $37 million. So what does the budget include?
All player compensation?
Taxes?
Cars?
Rent?
Food?
Escorts?
Body waxing?
Lawn care?
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