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    Well, he's falling apart this inning, but before that was pitching very well.

    The point is that Owings is a talent that doesn't know the pressure. Just like many a young pitcher before him, he may have presented the best opportunity to just go out and pitch. Webb is great, but on short rest, vs. these Rockies, I don't think he'd be "Webb" as most think of him.

    Like I said, he's fallen apart here, and maybe this is where having a veteran comes in handy, but I think it's good he's learning.

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    Truly a team playing at another level right now. Holliday just crushed that one. Almost wish that the Rockies were around when my dad was young. That way I wouldn't have to be a Reds fan right now.

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    Well, he's falling apart this inning, but before that was pitching very well.

    The point is that Owings is a talent that doesn't know the pressure. Just like many a young pitcher before him, he may have presented the best opportunity to just go out and pitch. Webb is great, but on short rest, vs. these Rockies, I don't think he'd be "Webb" as most think of him.

    Like I said, he's fallen apart here, and maybe this is where having a veteran comes in handy, but I think it's good he's learning.
    How does he not know the pressure though? He doesn't realize that it's do or die? I don't buy it.

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    This thing could get really interesting if the D'Backs are able to find a way to win tonight. With Webb looming in Game 5 and Games 6 & 7 in Phoenix, the D'Backs aren't out of this quite yet.
    Of course, that depended on the D'Backs finding a way to win Game 4.

    The Rockies have definitely earned this sucker. They've been absolutely fantastic at every point that they needed to be just good.

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    How does he not know the pressure though? He doesn't realize that it's do or die? I don't buy it.
    You can't know until you're in that position. He's never pitched in the playoffs. My statement is equal to that of ignorance is bliss. He pitched very well until this inning. He obviously knows it's do or die, but being young and ignorant of the pressure, perhaps he could have gone a solid six or seven. Until this inning, it looked likely. Now it's moot.

    Oh well... Congrats to the Rockies and their fans. Lord knows they've waited for this day.

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    This thing could get really interesting if the D'Backs are able to find a way to win tonight. With Webb looming in Game 5 and Games 6 & 7 in Phoenix, the D'Backs aren't out of this quite yet.



    That's incorrect. Since 2005, Webb has made 14 starts against the Rockies. He's 5-4 in those starts and the D'Backs are 3-2 in games in which Webb hasn't figured in the decision, so he couldn't have lost 8 of 11 -- he's won 5 of 9 and his team has won 8 of 14.

    Webb's career record against the Rockies is 8-7 in 21 starts with a 3.89 ERA.

    Hmm, during game 1 the broadcasters stated that the Rockies had won 7 of the previous 10 games against Arizona that Webb started going back to last season. It's not a surprise that they were wrong.

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    I don't know what Webb is lifetime vs. the Rockies. I know he's got like a 6 ERA and a 1-4 record vs. them this season, however ... with every start on full rest. On short rest? Not sure he'd even fair that good.

    Rockies are looking unstoppable right now. Maybe they are just hot? Maybe they are just this good? I'll be rooting for them vs. whomever the AL sends.

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    Long layoff could derail the Rockies.

    The Tigers had to wait 9 days last year and it played a hand in their demise.

    Last thing the Rockies want to do is wait around when they're playing this well.

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    That's true, but that's what I was hoping for this series. Series was done on Saturday, didn't play until Wednesday, yet it didn't slow 'em down one bit.

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    AZ has given the Rockies way too many extra outs in this series.

    How many unearned runs this series?

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    I think they just said it was a total of six. I think three or four in this game alone.

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    Since their game is heavy on defense I don't think a long layoff will hurt them much. Defense can stay consistent while a hot offensive streak is difficult to maintain. If they play the Indians I think they have a great chance to win it all, but the Red Sox would be a tougher matchup for them IMO.

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    Shiiiiiit, they got lax with the lead and Fuentes had flashbacks to his closer days. Now they're making it hard on themselves

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    What a ing ride for the Rox!

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    Holliday got the LCS MVP because of his season. Other than his HR tonight I thought he was subpar for the series. Although, I'm not sure who else deserved it more as everyone was pretty subpar offensively but several got clutch hits at different times and everyone was stellar defensively.

    I might have given it to Corpus.

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    Taveras for his diving catch in game 2 that saved the series.

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    congrats to the rockies

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    i'll start a Cy young sinker ball pitcher on short rest in any win or go home situation.
    my opinion: short rest does not hurt sinker ball pitchers. hurts pitchers that rely on location only.


    hope the rockies sweep whoever is in the AL.

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    Taveras for his diving catch in game 2 that saved the series.

    Saving the series implies that there was a point in which there was a doubt who would win the series.

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    i'll start a Cy young sinker ball pitcher on short rest in any win or go home situation.
    my opinion: short rest does not hurt sinker ball pitchers. hurts pitchers that rely on location only.


    hope the rockies sweep whoever is in the AL.
    Funny thing about Webb's sinker, if he hasn't the location, he tends to become very wild. It was just in 2005 when he led the NL in walks. He's become much better, but that's all because of location.

    The Rockies tend to lay off the first handful of pitches Webb throws. Every third or fourth batter gets the count full or into 3-1/3-0 counts where Webb has to throw a straight fastball. I'm telling you, as someone who's watched Webb pitched probably 80% of his games played since he came up to the bigs, if his command/location is off, he's doomed.

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    congrat rockies
    I hope they win it all
    I hope they do not read the press and beat the out of the indians or sox

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    Watching the Rockies right now is like watching the Spurs last postseason: You just know they're going to win. The only suspense is HOW. It never even occurred to me that Smith wouldn't prolong the big inning.

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