WHat should Kobe be worried about. Hasn't he won enough rings already? Let him stay in LA and wait for Kupchek to find him another big.
Kobe isn't going anywhere. No matter where he went it would cost that team to many pieces (Or to many signifigant pieces) to get him. Let's say he and Radmanovich was traded to the Rockets for T mac,Bonzi,Scola, and picks. Who would be the better team? THE LAKERS!!!! that Lakers team might win a le.That is where the problem lies. Any team would have to gut themselves to make it work and then they become the Lakers.
No GM is going to give equal value for Kobe, not only because there is no equal value, but because he he is a cancer. Players do not go to LA to play for the lakers because of Kobe. He throws teammates under the bus, people don't forget that sort of thing.
A few things are certain, the Lakers are not going to get much better with Kobe this coming year, after this year is Kobe's final contract year. If Kobe wants to win a le, this brings several things into play.
1) Without Laker signing, and serious playoffs runs, Kobe is going to walk to a continder in two years.
2) Without a trade of Kobe before that time, the Lakers will get nothing in return from a Kobe walk.
3) The closer Kobe gets to the end of his contract, the more the Lakers NEED to make a deal. The more the Lakers need it, the less other teams have to offer to make it happen.
Kobe will be moved and the longer the Lakers wait, the less they will get in return.
Shawn Marion would beg to differ. Maybe that says something about him that he would rather play with Kobe and go out in the first round than play on an elite team with Steve Nash, but this is a blanket statement.
I would cry pussy juice if that went down.
You would cry...like in a bad way...or cry for jesus as this would finally make your team a compe or.
So the stupidest guy in the league would want to play with Kobe. Doesn't exactly strengthen the argument.
Your almighty Jordan through teammates and management under the buss a plethora of times....so many interviews and post game comments stating his displeasure...but Kobe's a cancer.....
I guess Team USA was wishin Kobe wouldn't play.....too bad they all pined for him to be on the team.
Marion, Kidd, Arenas, Artest and others have all said they would like to play with Kobe.
The almighty Jordan got six rings without one of the most dominant big men ever. The almighty Jordan had the respect of his teammates despite how he acted.
Jordan's actions were based in compe iveness. Kobe's are out of selfishness. That's why Jordan's teammates respected him and that's why Kobe's teammates hate him.
The more I think about it the more I don't want Kobe coming to Dallas. Then again if he can bring just one le, he's worth all the bull .
Jordan would criticize his team but never to the degree of Kobe. Another difference was if he did critique them he would still try to get them involve in the flow of the game. The same can't be said for Jellybean. Kobe is a big reason why the Lakers underachieve. Learning to trust your teammates is a big part of winning.If he can learn to do that then he would be on Jordans level. Right now he is a notch below. Remember Jordan was selfish early in his career as well, but he got tired of hitting that brick wall of failure in the playoffs. Kobe just has a thicker skull it seems.
Nope. I always thought Jordan was a pompous asshole also. Who broke up the Bulls? Michael Jordan. What did he ever do without Pippen? Oh yeah, sell some overpriced shoes made in sweatshops... You're right they DO have a lot in common.
Shocker: People who have never played with Bryant for an entire season think they can put up with his crap for what amounted to a short exhibition schedule this summer.
Whether or not Bryant is a cancer, the atmosphere he helped to create (along with the media, etc.) is poisoning the Lakers. I hope he stays there. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
What did Magic win without Kareem, what did Bird win without McHale and Parish, what did Kobe win without Shaq, what did Duncan win without Manu or Robinson... the list goes on...
LMFAO you're comparing one of the all-time great centers with a pretty good (albeit very overrated) small forward? there's a reason Kobe has 3 rings, and it's spelled S-H-A-Q. there's a reason Pippen has 6, it's spelled J-O-R-D-A-N. not the other way around.
That argument will never be resolved. MJ didnt win before or after Pip. In fact, Pippen did much better without MJ than MJ did without Pip. No arguing that Pip owes most of his success and his rings to MJ, but no telling what MJ would have won without Pippen
so because Jordan didn't have success as a young kid with a ty Chicago team, and then again as an old ass man with a ty Washington team, that means Pippen was more successful without Jordan? Considering how good the Portland & Houston teams he played on were, I'd say Pippen failed big time without Jordan.
One of them was winning championships. The other can't get out of the first round. Please stop even putting those two guys in the same sentence, unless that sentence states that they shouldn't be there together.
All Im saying is its hard to tell if MJ would have won those 6 rings without Pippen. He probably would have a couple, but not 6. Pippen was a huge part of MJ's success
MJ-less bulls still got to ECF with Pippen leading the way during the baseball years.
It may be "hard to tell" if Jordan would have won 6 les without Pippen. But it's a fact that Pippen would not have won 6 les without Jordan. If you deny that, you're full of .
What good teams were in the ECF then? The East sucked then, as it does now.
No, I'm not. I'm taking a riduiculous analogy to its ridiculous conclusion in order to demonstrate that it is in fact ridiculous.
MJ was an asshole. He was, is, and will be an arrogant jerk. He won 6 les, so people overlook his personality problems. People compare Kobe to MJ and claim, "See, they're no different. People should kiss Bryant's ass like they did for MJ." My point is that MJ was always walking a thin line. A few spectacular failures would have led to him wearing the "cancer" label as well.
and Jermaine Oneal
We had this same discussion alittle while back. Some mavs fans just don't get it!
Fact: Michael Jordan did not win a le without Phil Jackson or Scotty Pippen! They can flip it anyway that they like, but it remains a "FACT"
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While were on the topic....Kobe's career and players post 97 have been far more scrutinized and analyzed than any other point of the NBA history. With Cell cams, internet, blogs etc....you as a NBA pro can't do or say anything without it being over analyzed beyond recognition. You put Jordan in his prime sellling out various teammates and coaches with this type of atmosphere, you'll probably have similar "cancer" type labels. , Magic got his coach fired...so it doesn't really matter.
Oh and Mono....Dirk and you're hapless Mavs didn't get out of the first round either...too bad really.
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