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You are starting to sound like a closet Red Sox Fan.
No, I just don't buy into your homer/arrogant outlook on the Yanks, and you hate it. Then you pulled the "Yankee Hater" card, which is typical of a Yankee fan who is being out-argued.
You are starting to sound like a closet Red Sox Fan.
because - at this point in their careers - sabathia's a superior pitcher in every way . you're letting your love of the yankees and an extremely small sample size with CC skew your judgement.
ask 30 GMs this question and 30 would take Sabathia (INCLUDING cashman) for a start, season, career, whatever.
Oh okay so let me ask you this?
Jeter or A-Rod game 7 of the world series who do you want?
The answer is Jeter by a mile for one game but A-Rod for a season. By the numbers you must be joking telling me saying one start over CC with Andy is dead wrong by the numbers and experience it couldn't be more right.
If i said i take Andy for a season that would be different, see you won't give me any room to breath here, everything i say i guess is just about me being a Yankee Homer right.
Yep, saw that one coming as soon as you pulled the Yankee Haters card.
And there is nothing closet about my baseball outlook. I am a Rangers fan, and yeah, I root for the Sox and I dislike the Yankees. Despite my disdain for the pinstripes, I can honestly say that I have made much more sense and given much more sensible arguments in regards to the Yankees than you have.
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's about you being a homer, period. Making statements like Pet te being a "top caliber" pitcher is ridiculous, I don't care who you root for. The fact that you would rank him with pitchers like say a Jake Peavy is crazy.
The fact that you are a Yankees homer doesn't help, but you have to lie in the bed you made with all the crazy talk.
Been hitting theearly today i see. Still waiting for that team other than the Red Sox that will give A-Rod his best chance to win. Lets see who else has gone 13 for their last 13 since 1995 making the playoffs, uh gee well uh nobody.
Stll don't know what you are arguing do you?? I see him as a top caliber pitcher but you have to put that in the proper context. For a season is he as good as CC or Peavy, No and i never said that. I like him for one start in the playoffs though over CC for sure at this point.
You were ing a few posts ago about not having any breathing room, and yet you go and make sarcastic remarks like this. You deserve all the you are getting in this thread.Been hitting the
And I already told you, I believe an NL team like perhaps the Cubs or Dodgers gives A-Rod the best chance to win, or at leat get to the WS. The fact that you choose to ignore it is not my fault. The fact that you choose to ignore how broken-down your team is and that you may come away with crap in FA is also not my fault. The Yanks will not make the playoffs next year.
Why would i give you any credit for a dumb ass statement like that that is both irrelevant and wrong. Have those teams made the playoffs like the Yanks have every year, have they? Dodgers have won something like 1 playoff series since Lasorda Retired and you are giving me them as a better spot to win for A-Rod than the Yanks.
All you said was that he was a 'top caliber' pitcher. You did not qualify that statement with anything else. You did not say 'in context' or 'in the playoffs.' You said top caliber. Period. So I don't think YOU know what you are arguing.
I qualified that several times, just go back a page you tried throw the statement in my face after i already made myself very clear on that point many times over.
No, you were qualifying your statement about taking him over Sabathia. Not about him being top caliber.
No i sad he is top caliber overall just not on the same level as those other guys for the whole year but for one start over CC i take him. I qualified it you just don't like it.
Hey, I answered your question. You didn't say I had to answer it in a way that you see fit.Why would i give you any credit for a dumb ass statement like that that is both irrelevant and wrong. Have those teams made the playoffs like the Yanks have every year, have they? Dodgers have won something like 1 playoff series since Lasorda Retired and you are giving me them as a better spot to win for A-Rod than the Yanks.
Your team is full of question marks. 13 years in a row making the playoffs don't mean RIGHT NOW. The manager that guided you to those appearances is a Dodger now. The guy who kept your team from being 15-20 games under .500 by the All-Star break is gone as well. Rivera might be gone. Moose might have half a good season again, if you are lucky. The free agent crop is dangerously thin in the places that the Yankees need it most. Stop living in the past.
What the does THAT mean? That's like saying "oh, I am one of the best in the game, just not on the same level as the really good ones."
When you are wrong and you are, i am not giving you any props for it, those teams have done nothing in the last 10 years and i see no reason why that is going to change.
As opposed to 13 years of either not making the playoffs or making it on and off like some of crappy teams you have attempted to bring to the table. Yanks have a talented roster, experience MAKING THE PLAYOFFS and a huge payroll but i am just being a Yankee homer saying they are making the playoffs next year and are A-rods best bet for a WS le other than the Red Sox, yeah sure whatever.
Bottom Line: Yankees do not have one of the better staffs in the AL, much less the best. No rational person could think that they even had the best staff in their own division in 2007, for the regular season, post season, one start, or whatever. Nothing will be a given next season under these cir stances.
Why? Jeter's 'clutchness' is vastly overrated. A-Rod was better than Jeter in the postseason this year.
And people tend to forget that while the MFYs were choking against BOS in 2004, Jeter was horrible in that series and it was A-Rod who put together a great postseason and tried to keep the MFYs afloat.
The perception that A-Rod is not a good postseason player is a myth that was built solely 2005 & 2006 (small sample size).
In his career, he's got an .844 OPS in the postseason. By comparison, the every so clutch and timely Mr. Jeter has a .846 OPS in the postseason.
Why would a-rod want to re-sign to a team where the fans ALWAYS boo the out of them when they are in a slump. I hope he says the yankees and their fans.
What a ridiculous retort. The fact that the Yankees have made the playoffs every year for the last decade plus doesn't change the fact that the club was under .500 in July of this year and was saved, basically, by the fact that it plays in a crappy division and could load up with wins over Baltimore, Toronto, and Tampa Bay. That they've made the playoffs for so many consecutive years is NOT a reason to believe that the house isn't starting to crumble -- and that when the crumbling becomes irreversible, the Yanks will have at least a couple of fairly lean years.Why would i give you any credit for a dumb ass statement like that that is both irrelevant and wrong. Have those teams made the playoffs like the Yanks have every year, have they? Dodgers have won something like 1 playoff series since Lasorda Retired and you are giving me them as a better spot to win for A-Rod than the Yanks.
The larger point, however, is that the path of least resistance for ARod in seeking to reach the World Series is in the National League. Given the number of super-compe ive clubs residing in the AL (Angels, Indians, Tigers, Red Sox to name a few) and the relatively small number of such clubs in the NL, there's great reason to think that adding ARod to one NL club could make that team a regular season juggernaut and give it plenty of reason to believe that it can reach the playoffs annually. I'm not sure why that's a controversial assertion -- that they haven't done it for the last 12 years doesn't mean a damned thing; the Red Sox didn't make the playoffs in 2006, but that doesn't mean that they haven't been the most successful club in baseball over the last 5 years.
Oh come one now, Jeter has a WS MVP in his trophy case and was very good recently against the Angels and the Tigers while A-Rod hit something like .087 in those series. Lets not slam on Jeter here, overall he has had a great post-season career.
I'm sorry, direct me to the quote where I asked for props ... All I did was answer your question, which you accused me of not doing.
And therein lies your problem. Living in the past.those teams have done nothing in the last 10 years and i see no reason why that is going to change.
Anyone who thinks the Yanks can be WS contenders next year is seriously kidding themselves. Too many question marks, players that are broken down or on the verge of it and a shaky (at best) overall rotation. That's just not going to cut it, A-Rod or not.As opposed to 13 years of either not making the playoffs or making it on and off like some of crappy teams you have attempted to bring to the table. Yanks have a talented roster, experience MAKING THE PLAYOFFS and a huge payroll but i am just being a Yankee homer saying they are making the playoffs next year and are A-rods best bet for a WS le other than the Red Sox, yeah sure whatever.
I'm not denying that Jeter's had some great postseason series (so has A-Rod). Jeter's also had some turds (2007, 2004, 2001, 1998), just like A-Rod.
The difference is that the media tends to focus on Jeter's triumphs and A-Rod's failures.
As I edited in my post above, their career postseason numbers are virtually identical (once you take into account that A-Rod has less games).
Thank-you! That is basically what I was trying to say when I mentioned the Cubs and Dodgers, but you said it much better than I did (as usual).
I don't understand why dbreiden can't see my point. I think it makes perfect sense that he could go further with either of those teams than next year's Yankees. But then again, I am looking into the future of each of those teams and which League they play in, rather than living in the past.
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