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Did you miss where timvp was baptized by the Church of Manu? I am one of them now.Timvp has a paranoia growing about the CoM. Everybody is a CoM member and they're out to get him.
Robert Horry is the clutchest shooter ever!
Did you miss where timvp was baptized by the Church of Manu? I am one of them now.Timvp has a paranoia growing about the CoM. Everybody is a CoM member and they're out to get him.
Manu is a BIG GAME PLAYER.
He is CLUTCH in big games.
But i wouldn't classify him as a clutch shooter.
To be honest, I don't remember the last time he even shot a clutch shot.
Altar boy at best
In last year's playoffs, here is how each player faired in the clutch. (With clutch defined as less than 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter or overtime with neither team ahead by more than 5 points.)
Tim Duncan
.429 field goal percentage
.688 free throw percentage (+5% from the regular season)
3 assists
0 passing turnovers
Manu Ginobili
.273 field goal percentage
.840 free throw percentage (+1% from the regular season)
2 assists
5 passing turnovers
Tony Parker
.583 field goal percentage
100% free throw percentage
3 assists
0 passing turnovers
Robert Horry
100% field goal percentage
no free throws
no assists
no turnovers
Bruce Bowen
.400 field goal percentage
no free throws
2 assists
0 passing turnovers
Fabricio Oberto
.500 field goal percentage
100% free throw percentage
no assists
no turnovers
Pretty interesting numbers. Not sure what to take out of them other than Horry's clutchness is even apparent in the numbers.
Compelling stats, but you have to take this into consideration who handles the ball the most in crunch and who takes the most shots during clutch time.In last year's playoffs, here is how each player faired in the clutch. (With clutch defined as less than 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter or overtime with neither team ahead by more than 5 points.)
Tim Duncan
.429 field goal percentage
.688 free throw percentage (+5% from the regular season)
3 assists
0 passing turnovers
Manu Ginobili
.273 field goal percentage
.840 free throw percentage (+1% from the regular season)
2 assists
5 passing turnovers
Tony Parker
.583 field goal percentage
100% free throw percentage
3 assists
0 passing turnovers
Robert Horry
100% field goal percentage
no free throws
no assists
no turnovers
Bruce Bowen
.400 field goal percentage
no free throws
2 assists
0 passing turnovers
Fabricio Oberto
.500 field goal percentage
100% free throw percentage
no assists
no turnovers
Pretty interesting numbers. Not sure what to take out of them other than Horry's clutchness is even apparent in the numbers.
And you left out the most compelling stat: Points.
I don't see the stats as compelling? Tough to take much out of them, actually.
The site, 82games.com, doesn't list straight up points. I guess I can figure it out given the shooting percentages . . .
The stats are compelling, because people hail Manu as being clutch, but isn't it compelling that he only averages 27% shooting FG in crunch time?
I expected better from 82games, but you never know, what if Manu takes a butt load of attempts and makes like 1/4 of them and averages like 10-15 points during the clutch?The site, 82games.com, doesn't list straight up points. I guess I can figure it out given the shooting percentages . .
http://www.82games.com/0607/06SAS4E.HTM RS
http://www.82games.com/0607/playoffs/06SAS4E.HTM PO's
There are Manu's stats during the clutch for 06-07 RS/PO. Since we're talking about Manu here I left out everybody else.
I guess they include those shots that Manu was fouled!
I am going to indulge in the Manu homerism and say that although Manu was averaging 27% FG's in the clutch, it is judged by per 48 minutes, and he also averages 40.6 points in the clutch too.
You can't make much out of these stats.
It looks like Manu was 3-for-11 last year in clutch situations. He went 21-for-25 from the free throw line, but if I understand the stats right 18 of those attempts were on intentional fouls.
Comparing to others, Duncan was 6-for-14 from the field and 11-for-16 from the line. Parker for 8-for-12 from the field and 4-for-4 from the line.
So with Manu having a sub par FG%, and garnering the most passing TO's, yet averaging 40.6 points in the clutch, would you still say it is safe to have the ball in his hands in the clutch?
Yeah. If the chips are down and you need a play, Manu is one of the first players in the league I'd trust to make that play.
I think this is one of those instances where you had to watch the actual games in those clutch situations.
In the first 19 games of the playoffs, Manu was 1-for-9 from the field in clutch situations. In Game 4 of the Finals, Manu was 2-for-2.
Pretty good timing.
If this stats was from the last 5 mins of every playoff games, I do not think they can be called clutch time because Spurs often lead.
Clutch time should be 'behind or tie or lead by little', and that is 'Manu Time'. And that could happen at the first half of the 4th quarters.
Don't change the concept!
In the first 19 games of the playoffs, Manu was 1-for-9 from the field in clutch situations. In Game 4 of the Finals, Manu was 2-for-2.
Pretty good timing.
Last edited by meta2007; 11-15-2007 at 11:59 AM.
Of course I agree Manu's shot is everything but clutch, but then we have this posted in a different thread (bold is mine):
GigaLOL
Can a Church have a collective Chode Explosion?
Manu´s a clutch free throw shooter.
He plays harder during 4th quarters. Sometimes he forces it, and commits turnovers....But he has the balls to take those risks.
About the clutchiest primate whatever...that´s just plain stupidity.
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