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Doesn't matter if you were joking or not, you still went there.
Any guy who says to avoid hot chicks is seriously lacking in self confidence. You start at the top and then work your way down.
A lot of guys are intimidated by hot girls, and they shouldn't be. Most of these "10's" are not hit on all that often because guys are so intimidated by them, which actually makes them easier to "pick up". (using "pick up" in the broadest terms). Have you never seen a guy with a girl that looks way out of his league and wondered.........."how'd he get her?". Guess what Einstein, he hit on her.
I've met many hot es, I've met many ugly es. Any girl can be a , and any girl can be a good . Might as well get a hot one that can please you in the bedroom right?
Don't listen to RuffOZ and his advice.
Doesn't matter if you were joking or not, you still went there.
DAMN you are such a sman! That is not an insult, more like a term of endearment, but give the poor kid a chance to figure out what the heck is going on. He needs to learn to how to walk before he can fly!!!
No wonder you have not had many experiences with woman. Learn to treat them like ladies first. Show some respect. That's the difference between a boy (you) and a man (me). I know what you only wish you knew.
A in men ! What some people in this thread fail to understand is that girls are so different this day in age. Especially at Norcals age. The nice little chicas aren't going for the old school nice shy type of dudes. What those girls want are the guys with confidence. Border line arrogant. I never understood why some are scared of rejection. I mean the worst a girl can tell you is no. And if she does tell you no, well guess what she's not the only girl in the world! Besides norcals still very young. Live like it brah! And dont be afraid!
Works for me! And I've never been happier.
thats why in todays day and age
you see alot of hot biatches going out with wangsters and dude with money/security financially,
at the end of the day when that relationship doesnt work, the shy guys who do nothing will reap the buy 1 get 1 free....
I was just thinking how much I disagreed with you with I saw what you posted about me.
And before I rip your thread apart, thanks very much for the sweet compliment.
That said...
As to your first point...
If a guy likes me, I would not want him to put off saying so.
Granted, it would help his case if we had spoken a few times or at least long enough to where I felt he had, had time to learn something about me.
The guys that walk up and immediately start hitting on me are a turn off but so are the guys who think I am cute, funny, whatever but are afraid to tell me.
I don't want a boy friend who is timid and scared, especially of me!
Regarding your second point...
If a girl 1) does not find a guy to be interesting enough to call and/or 2) does not respect or regard him enough to return his calls, then she is not worth his time.
Don't play her game. Don't seek revenge. Just pity the fool who will encounter her next.
All I ask of any guy is that they be honest about who he is and that he has a genuine interest in who I am.
If I can't respect and befriend a guy, no matter how cute he is, I won't even consider dating him.
That rule has meant a lot less dates but it has also prevented a lot of wasted time and broken hearts.
So to me it is worth it.
Dear Angel:
We may not disagree that much after all.
For rule number 1--not letting a woman know how much you like her too early--I think the operative words are "too early."
What is too early?
Probably should have at least a couple of dates under your belt. Make sure she is not skank, a drama queen, etc.
Also--I still maintain--women appear to still want some "mystique"--a guy who lets his guard down too early may wind up ruining his chances of letting a good relationship really develop.
Angel--you are describing a dating world as it should be--one that exists for you and for the men lucky enough to get to know you on a personal level.
As for the guys who are hung up on the hotties...
Been there--done that.
It all depends on your definition of "hot."
Remember "Gilligan's Island"?
(I know--I know--I am showing my age--I am probably older than alot of people here).
Everyone was getting hung up on Ginger.
Any guy with half a brain knew the real jewel was sweet, kind, sincere, adorable Mary Ann. She had all of the personality traits desirable in a woman--and quite honestly--in my book--she was far more attractive than the movie star.
In fact--for years--people used to say you could tell alot about a guy depending on which woman he would prefer to be with.
I am betting that Angel is a definite Mary Ann, which is great--guys need to keep their cards close to their vest with the vast majority of women until they meet their own Angel/Mary Ann.
Last edited by Man of Steel; 12-04-2007 at 05:29 AM.
Okay, I obviously have to explain where I am coming from because you got me all wrong.
I didn't say "that all "hot" girls are inherently evil/ y/manipulative/shallow" - what I said is that hot chicks, who are usually in the "cool set", are not going to pay much attention to someone else who isn't at their social level. Remember, we are talking about HIGH SCHOOL here. If Norcal is a really good looking guy, and one of the cool kids, then sure, he's got a chance, but if he's not part of that set he is setting himself up for disappointment - at least that was my experience of high school.
I didn't say that he shouldn't try to pick up "hot chicks" - my comment was about the fact that high school is cliquey and if he's not in the same league as her then he's probably setting himself up for failure. I don't believe that applies to life in general, but high school is a like that.
As to your implication that I have no confidence with women, I don't behave this way today - I get to know whoever takes my fancy. However, when I was at high school, I always went for the "hot chicks", and I was always disappointed because they didn't want a bar of me... in fact, that's wrong, I was the guy whose shoulder they cried on and I was too young and foolish to be anything but the dependable friend they wanted me to be.
The crux of what I'm saying is this: if I could have it all over again, I would still have been the shoulder to cry on for the hotties, but at the same time I would have gone out with any of a number of girls who weren't the hottest around, but who were nice, cute in their own way, and interested in me. That is the wisdom I'm trying to impart to Norcal, although I admit that I wasn't overly clear in my first explanation.
Key thought - HIGH SCHOOL: SOCIAL FREAKIN MINEFIELD.
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 12-04-2007 at 05:05 AM.
You are good people.
LOL "wangster" is a funny word!thats why in todays day and age
you see alot of hot biatches going out with wangsters and dude with money/security financially,
at the end of the day when that relationship doesnt work, the shy guys who do nothing will reap the buy 1 get 1 free
I never new Yao could be such an A-hole. Although he may have just suspected you were using him to get to Rasho.
You're funny.
But Rasho is the one who has Yao's number not the other way around.
I never said it didn't work....
Sanity is right that the way a woman looks has nothing to do with if she's a or not. Looks have nothing to do with it really...although I do think the hot ones get hit on more and have less patience for cheesy pickup lines...and I've met a few that think men are interested in them only for their looks...which kind of makes you wonder why they go to so much trouble do make themselves look good.
Anyway...Norcal, I'm no relationship expert but I have learned a couple of things you can be sure of...
#1. If you like a girl and a bunch of friends, especially girls that are friends...are telling you the girl is a , and they know her? Believe them...it may seem mean...but you'll save yourself a whole lot of headaches. THey know what she says about guys...or about you, behind your back. You may think people are trying to meddle or are jealous or whatever...they aren't...they're looking out for you.
#2. IF this particular chick is a wild party girl and she's already dated a couple of your friends...she's making the rounds on your group of friends. Don't even think about taking her seriously. She got the Yoko complex.
Go up to her and lick her face. Chicks dig that.
As sung about by Chevy Chase in the role of Ty Webb in the movie Caddyshack:
I was born to love you / I was born to lick your face / I was born to rub you / but you were born to rub me first
her in the ass throw her over the bay bridge......
Girls were like that back when I was in school too...and that was a pretty long time ago. Actually I think young girls have always been like that...that girls liking shy guys thing is made for TV crap. It's a nerdy guys fantasy. Wish fufillment...and those guys are usually the ones that wind up becoming writers.
It's just like Superman...big time nerd as Clark Kent who is actually the most powerful dude on the planet...that's a nerds wish fufillment. And Lois didn't like shy Clark...she wanted Superman.
I mean some girls might actually like shy guys...but those aren't the common girls.
On the shy thing...You guys can spin it however you want it and play yourself off as studs or whatever...
But if you really like a chick...you're gonna be nervous 99% of the time, unless you're drunk or something...and if she really likes you, she's going to be nervous too. That's what sets them apart...because they do make you nervous.
That's like saying you won't be nervous on the day you get married...the you won't.
Unless you're just completely ego-centric or narcissistic....or something. If you don't really like them that much...it's not that big of a deal. But if it's the girl you just have to have above all others, I mean the girl...of course you're going to be worried about what if she says no. I don't care how much of a stud you are...if you are normal, you're going to be nervous, at least I always was. And you know what...if they really are into you, they're going to be so nervous they aren't going to notice that you're nervous.
And you know...I asked my ex-wife to marry me on our third date(our first date was dinner and a movie, and then spending the night over at her place)...so it's not like I was afraid to put my guts on the line or anything...I was still nervous as , my heart was racing, felt like I was going to pass out...and I was about 99% certain she was going to say yes(and she did). It was still nerve wracking. IMO, if you start telling yourself you aren't going to be a little bit nervous about doing something like that, or that you shouldn't be...you are in for a rude awakening when you actually try it. Unless she's just another girl.
Last edited by whottt; 12-05-2007 at 04:19 AM.
Angel--
Dump Beno and Rasho.
I found a new guy for you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdXZ9LGS2M
how in the do you take advice from women that post on an internet forum all day and all night long?
you might want to look else where.....
Girls were like that back when I was in school too...and that was a pretty long time ago. Actually I think young girls have always been like that...that girls liking shy guys thing is made for TV crap. It's a nerdy guys fantasy. Wish fufillment...and those guys are usually the ones that wind up becoming writers.
It's just like Superman...big time nerd as Clark Kent who is actually the most powerful dude on the planet...that's a nerds wish fufillment. And Lois didn't like shy Clark...she wanted Superman.
I mean some girls might actually like shy guys...but those aren't the common girls.
On the shy thing...You guys can spin it however you want it and play yourself off as studs or whatever...
But if you really like a chick...you're gonna be nervous 99% of the time, unless you're drunk or something...and if she really likes you, she's going to be nervous too. That's what sets them apart...because they do make you nervous.
That's like saying you won't be nervous on the day you get married...the you won't.
Unless you're just completely ego-centric or narcissistic....or something. If you don't really like them that much...it's not that big of a deal. But if it's the girl you just have to have above all others, I mean the girl...of course you're going to be worried about what if she says no. I don't care how much of a stud you are...if you are normal, you're going to be nervous, at least I always was. And you know what...if they really are into you, they're going to be so nervous they aren't going to notice that you're nervous.
And you know...I asked my ex-wife to marry me on our third date(our first date was dinner and a movie, and then spending the night over at her place
i feel ya breh breh
Fillmoe if you don't get off that damned internet and stop using this horrible language I'm going to outsource you back to India, you ungrateful son! Go wash your turban and stop wiping your hands on it after you finish masturbating!
LOL we need another Filmoe Family Reunion.
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