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you forgot how he wants to dismantled his own team.
btw i find it hilarious that some of my fellow spurs fans have seemed to forget about how Kobe by himself dismantled our team, and others for that matter, when the lakers when on their 3peat.
manu couldn't have done that in his ing dreama
you forgot how he wants to dismantled his own team.
Last edited by jay014; 12-07-2007 at 12:39 AM.
well, explain ur reasoning. how'd he dismantle his own team?
Then why don't you jump ship and go be a Lakers fan?
Where's Shaq? Phil left and came back.signs an extension wants out, wants in, wants out again,wants Bynum gone and others and you want that piece of here for Manu.Don't get me wrong they'll win with Kobe then what? Kobe wants Tim and Tony traded to prove that he can destroy a team once again.
u idiot. ur logic is fallacious. like when bush says if ur not w/ us than ur against us, or ur not patriotic.
so complaing that the team around him sucks is dismantling them? wtf? and u can't dismantle a team if it's already a piece of to beign with
and shaq wasn't even an importqnt piece to the puzzle. the last couple of years witht he lakers he let himself gat fat, plus, he was already old.
Kobe to the Spurs = Death of ball movement
While Kobe is hands down the better individual player than Ginobili, I often wonder if he even takes the time to learn the names of his teammates. Team ball wins championships (ask the Pistons about it). Theres a reason that Kobe hasn't won a championship recently. Lack of that aforementioned team play.
No thanks. I'll keep my team first guy.
He went on to win another le without Kobe.
Holy thats like the most rediculous thing i've ever heard. The lakers haven't even won a playoff series since shaq left while he has gone on to get a fourth ring without Kobe.
Whoa. Hold on. Kobe > Manu... but Kobe > Duncan? Give me a ing break.
1) Duncan
2) LeBron
3) Garnett
Call me when Kobe gets out of the first round, then we'll talk.
Kobe's a prima donna.
Most Spurs fans don't have a short term memory, his latest antics occurred in the summer of '07 annoying even his most loyal supporters.
Manu's game may not be up on the level of Kobe. But he's got real character, right up there with Duncan.
The team with 4 HOF's was a piece of ?so complaing that the team around him sucks is dismantling them? wtf? and u can't dismantle a team if it's already a piece of to beign with
they were old and slow, and they beat a spurs that choked big time. shaq was snaq at the time and karl amlone and gary payton were baout as useful as farmar and odom are right now.
had they re-signed shaq ur assuming one huge thing: that he'd have got himsef into shape like he did w/ miami, which is hard to believe since the 2 years before he was a lazy ass.
gary payton won in miami.
Dude, stop. You're making yourself look bad.
no.
totally NO.kobe would kill this team if he is here.
The one thing ive learnt from this thread:
There are ALOT of Homers on this board. A bit of subjectivity,,,, please
I would not trade Manu for Kobe. As someone previously mentioned... Kobe has character flaws that factor in. Kobe is a better scorer (though not by a super-wide margin... Manu doesn't need to score as much as Kobe, with Tim and Tony here), but in other facets of the game, and certainly off the court, I like Manu better. And yes, there's also the fact that he is such a great fit in SA (Ginobili that is).
I WOULD however trade him for Lebron. Lebron is too gifted in too many ways, and he's much younger.
Last edited by Kent_in_Atlanta; 12-07-2007 at 09:13 AM.
And that's what idiots don't get. There are winners and there are superstars and more likely than not they won't be the same person.
Manu is a winner...pure and simple......
Kobe is a "best there is superstar".....
Manu is a TEAM player.
Kobe is a self centered ego maniac, who is probably lucky he isn't playing on a prison team instead of the Lakers. I guess money can buy happiness. Or at least keep you out of prison.
Now which one of these guys do I want playing for the Spurs? Certainly not Kobe......
Is this a joke thread??
Here is another take on you "Great Kobe" vs "Nobody Manu"
Both have played in 19 games thus far.
Kobes' line goes something like this.
27 ppg @ 46%...35% from 3 pt land....87% from FT line and a total of 515 points.
Manus' line goes like this.
20 ppg @ 48%...44% from 3 pt land....83% from FT line and a total of 386 points.
While Kobe is outscoring Manu by a total of 129 points, Kobe is also logging probably at least 15 more minutes per game. Do the math. It will show that Kobe really isn't that much better on the offensive end and he certainly isn't a more dominate defensive player.
Also consider the time on the floor difference and Kobe has 10 more assists on the season, 3 more steals and 3 more blocks.
Give Manu the same amount of PT and it would suggest that Manu would equal or excede Kobe in every category.
So much for the "Kobe is a much greater player than Manu".
So much for the "Trade Manu for Kobe"....
Leave him in Lakerland where at least there are a ton of Hollywood would be starlets, that are willing to occupy his down time, while the Spurs are still playing for another Championship.
Please stop braying ignorance about best players = best team. Real Spurs fans know that character and maturity have just as much to do with what makes a player great as physical ability. Perhaps you haven't caught onto that yet.
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