^^^ and the biggest Vince jock rider is here. You know im not even going to comment to you after this. There is no reason, you have the biggest hard on for a player that will "never" do what he did in college. That's fine, and just like your alter ego Zack Attack there you go again bringing up the Texans...try to stay on topic you ing idiot. OH yeah and the whole "madden" curse is a sorry ing excuse. Lets see if your singing the same tune next year. As far as sorry recievers, they are pro's for a reason so that is no excuse either.
Then why are you even writing anything? Typical re ed post by you.
My alter ego? Okay ashbeeigh
But I've come to expect weak posts like this from you. Sorry some people like Vince and don't give 2 s about a sorry franchise like the texans.
^^^So by that rationale, Andre Johnson and other texan injuries are not excuses for the texans sorry showing this year. Since you know their backups are pro's too. Okay, thanks.
ATRAIN has become the whipping boy of the NFL and Baseball forums.
How so?
ATRAIN has become the whipping boy of the NFL and Baseball forums.
Is this all because I support the Houston teams in baseball and football? Explain yourself.
[QUOTE=ATRAIN]I was exaggerating. You're not a whipping boy, but your takes crack me up sometimes. Also, the sheer horrible homer bets are pretty funny as well. Some people say you should stick to creating threads about random bull in the club, but I think a little entertainment in the NFL and baseball forums are good.
as ty as Vince Young has looked at times, his team is still in contention for the playoffs going into the final weekend of the regular season. for the second year in a row. with a ans team that "experts" were predicting a 5-11 season out of. something leinart & cutler haven't even come close to doing.
bottom line: VY is a born leader and he just wins. say what you will about his stats, he puts up the W's. as he continues to develop, that team will just get better and better.
the fact that his completion percentage is higher but TD/INT is worse tells me exactly what has been the problem all season - his receivers ing suck. he has zero playmakers around him. and Norm Chow is ruining him. All last week against the Jets, Vince looked almost scared to run with it. His greatest strength is his legs but he's being forced to sit in the pocket, which is ing stupid.
Yeah well I have confidence in my teams. I made that bet with pee wee and I honestly believed the Texans were a playoff team. I still do, but injury struck them early on and it was hard to recover. Yes I know that isnt an excuse but we aren't a strong enough team yet to be able to lose 2 or 3 key guys like the colts and still be in contention. The baseball bet could have gone either way and it was decided in the last week. I will make that same bet next year as well. LOL the two that say I should stick to random bull in the club is the same guy and I have proof. Now the funny thing is if you go read other posts he quotes himself using his other account. Now how sad is that.
12 total TDs and 27 TOs, how exactly is that leading his team?
The ans are still in contention in spite of VY, not because of him.
Just curious because I don't follow them, but how are they getting these wins then? The running game? Defense?
I agree with this. VY is the type of guy you have to just let play.
Confining him in one type offense turns him into a pedestrian QB.
He's thinking too much rather than just playing the game.
If you actually pay up, I give you props.
The ans are in contention with Vince Young as their quarterback. Is quarterback the most important position on the team or not?
The Broncos haven't done with Jay Cutler, the Cardinals looked horrible with Matt Leinart. The ans are winning with Vince Young. Bottom Line. End Of Discussion.
Honestly, I think it's still too early to judge VY, Leinart, or Cutler because they were forced to play way before they should have ever set foot on a regular season field. The NFL teams draft QB's way too high and throw them to the wolves way too early, I think a guy like Romo shows what can happen if you get the right guy and let him learn what to do before shoving a leadership role and control of the team down his throat.
If you actually pay up, I give you props.
LOL the funny thing on that bet is that I already sent a check to him, he made that post knowing I was going to pay him. I was stiring the pot of course because it was funny to see jack asses like TSA calling me a and what not, when in actuality how many of those guys would have actually paid up. Pee wee even knew I was stirring the pot and kept adding to it. When it comes to bets I pay up even if I shouldnt have made the bet in the first place. Just shows you how strong my faith is in my teams. Now will I make another 100 bet next year, prob not but I still have faith.
He's never going to be a Manning/Brady level pocket passer. Probably not even a Drew Brees/Carson Palmer level passer. But he can still be an extremely effective passer as long as you let him keep his greatest strengths - his ability to run with the ball and improv, along with making his teammates around him better.
I'm starting to wonder about these USC guys - Bush, Leinart, Norm Chow, Pete Carroll.....doesn't seem like too many recent USC guys have any clue what it takes to be successful in the NFL.
You ment to say the ans are winning dispite Vince Young. VY is the next Mike Vick. Will show flashs but will never take his team to the next level.
Look for Cutler to be better next year and I would not be suprised to see Leinart have a decent year next year.
Romo hasnt been doing what he used to all season? Is it the injury? Is it because of Simpson? Did other teams figure the cowboys out? Is it just a slump? Or is he choking because the Mavs started the Dallas choking trend?
hahahahha
Yeah I agree with you on that. Vince will have his INViNCEABLE games but will never lead the ans to the promise land. If he is allowed to run free will get hurt like Vick always did.
The ans are winning with Vince Young. I don't give a how they're doing it. They're winning and he is their quarterback. The Broncos are watching the playoffs at some ty bar in Denver with Jay Cutler as their QB.
How pathetic of a QB do you have to be when everybody remembers a couple years ago when your team was better with Jake Plummer.
We still don't know if Vince will be splitting that bar tab.
Cutler is a better QB than VY at this point. No denying that.
And looking strictly at W/L record for QBs is the same as looking only at W/L records for pitchers.
It just doesn't work.
If he can learn the passing game the way that McNabb did, he will be one of the deadliest weapons in NFL history. He is basically exactly like McNabb but with better running ability, athleticism, and is clutch as .
That's so off base it's not even funny. Considering a pitcher is a solitary player only communicating with one other guy on the field, while a quarterback has to lead 10 other men, makes it ridiculous to compare the two.
a pitcher's W/L total depends on how he personally pitches and the rest are elements completely out of his control. a quarterback has to work in sync with 10 other guys, be a leader on and off the field, and communicate with the coaches.
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