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Not sure it's a word, but it's a moot point because they can't be seperated...like a white-bread balogna sandwich and the roof of your mouth.
I'm all for Ron Artest minus his psychocity (is that a word?), although I still have my doubts about him.
If the Spurs trade for him, they better know what they're doing.
Not sure it's a word, but it's a moot point because they can't be seperated...like a white-bread balogna sandwich and the roof of your mouth.
If the question was asked last week about Pau Gasol being traded To the Lakers, your answer would had been 1%.
Your point?
Actually it would have been less....but we're not talking about the Lakers, who as of this off-season were talking about trading their franchise player and who've been in big-name trade discussions the last two years.
We're talking about the Spurs, who as I said, are not prone to making big trades, especially in response to some other big trade....it's not their MO.
If we'd happen to aquire Artest, I doubt he acts up. Not on Pop's team. Not on Duncan's team. He has mentioned how much of a "pimp" he thinks Duncan is. I think he could excel within the Spurs organization and be happy.
Either way, trade or no trade, Spurs are taking the le this year.
If this would be his last year of the current contract... I would do it.
As he also has the next year on player option. I wouldnt...
I guess we've done it before with Rodman.
What's the general opinion of how that worked out? I personally hated it.
I wonder if the Spurs make a run at Arenas or Brand this summer.
Maybe the Spurs are trying to stay tight this year, repeat with this squad, and then try and go three-peat with a big free agent next summer.
For those who talk about money being an issue, Arenas and Brand have gone on our record and said they would take less to play for a top notch club who is capable of winning a championship.
Unless you're a team that doesn't already have the pieces to get past the first or second round of the playoffs, the high risk that comes with acquiring Artest does not outweigh the high reward. SA doesn't need to make that gamble.
Brand I could see them making a run for. Not Arenas.
Brand would have to take a pay cut of almost unheard of proportions to come to the Spurs. Anyone the Spurs get won't be making near any of the Big 3. The question is finding the right mix of energy and execution in role players to surround them with. The Spurs already have 3 all star caliber players, there's no reason to even think about adding another.
You're probably right, but Brand is definitely on the back end of his career and recovering from injury. By the time the Spurs have some money to spend his market value may make him somewhat within reach, especially if his numbers drop next season.
Those of you advocating for Artest - have you not seen this guy interviewed? He is bat crazy, mentally ill, and there's no way he fits here.
As Ex said, our team wins not through having the best talent, but through chemistry and smarts, and artest is all anti-chemistry and stupidity.
NO.
Exactamundo!
Few people realize that Ron Artest, despite his occasional on-court brilliance, is a chemistry cancer whose actions often run counter to those of the rest of the team. He breaks plays off, hogs the ball and, at times, gets involves in mano-y-mano scoring duels with the likes of Kobe, LeBron and other NBA elite. He thinks that he is an elite player and at times sacrifices the team concept in order to showcase himself.
no to artest...his talent isn't worth the inevitable heartache he will bring.
We're not getting a big FA this summer. Spurs have like 7 contracts that run into next year, and those contracts put them right about at the salary cap. That means they have the MCE, one trade exception of $2M+, and minimum contracts to sign 6 players to fill their roster to the minimum 13 players.
The next window for a big FA is 2010. Only Tim and Tony are signed beyond that summer, and Tim will be on his lower $$$ extension. Of course, signing a big fish involves jettsoning a (then) 33 YO Manu Ginobili, but they'll be chasing their next franchise player at that point, and it won't be a 33 YO SG that they will want to build around with TP.
For next year:
Bigs - Duncan, Oberto, Bonner, Splitter, Mahinmi.
Q. Do we get to pay Splitter whatever the 28th pick in the draft is rated at, or will he get some of the MLE? I hope it's the former, then we can use the MLE on a young, promising swingman.
Wings - Ginobili, Bowen, Udoka, ?, ?.
Probably one a young up and comer with length and athleticism, one a pure shooter.
PGs - Parker, Vaughn, ?.
Probably a young project.
Elton Brand is 28
Splitter would be signing the normal rookie guaranteed contract for 3 years. It normally never touches any of the MLE.
Right, but he has already played eight seasons, and unless he plays into his mid-late thirties, he is probably already past the halfway point of his career (which is what I meant by the "backend"). By 2010 he will be, what, 30? That's not exactly "old," but most teams looking to sign big money players who are 30+ are in "win-right-now" mode and already have big salary commitments on their roster.
Of course, the Spurs will probably be looking for help at the 2 and 3 spots by then, but who knows . . .
Brand will be 29 at the start of next season, he'll turn 30 before the playoffs.
Shareef Abdur-Rahim was 27 when his game fell apart after injuries started to take their toll.
Before the breakdown happened over the previous 5 seasons he had averaged 20 and 9.
Then 3 seasons when he averaged 13 and 5.5, and the last two seasons he's gone way downhill, combined averages of 5 points a game, and he's going to miss nearly this entire season.
i really think artest could help us, he know to score and has the D...
bowen and artest on kobe in conference finals will help us to advance to nba finals and both could guard ray allen and paul pierce..and we have ginobili the factor X of all playof series!!!
artest come on, we have to improve our defense for the PO, to improve our chances to have another scorer...this guy can play both court
It would be pretty cool to see Bowen and Artest playing at the same time on the same side on defense....
Still not worth it.
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