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    yeah... as if the hornets would allow that to happen. dream on, kids. let's stick to reality, shall we?

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    You don't think that Chris Paul could do what Tony did if he was on the Spurs?

    In case you need proof, he kicked our @sses last night and has numbers that Tony could never hope to reach.
    So why are we going to even bother trying to trade Tony to NO. Like they will go for it...

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    So, because of one regular season game, or even because of REGULAR SEASON STATS, we're gonna THROW AWAY TEH ING FINALS MVP FOR A GUY WHO HASN'T EVEN BEEN TO THE ING PLAYOFFS YET? HAVE YA'LL GONE ING MAD???

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    So, because of one regular season game, or even because of REGULAR SEASON STATS, we're gonna THROW AWAY TEH ING FINALS MVP FOR A GUY WHO HASN'T EVEN BEEN TO THE ING PLAYOFFS YET? HAVE YA'LL GONE ING MAD???

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    Sorry but its panic mode in Spurs city. I don't know why, its only January, but it is.

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    Chris paul for parker ? not in a million years.

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    You don't think that Chris Paul could do what Tony did if he was on the Spurs?

    In case you need proof, he kicked our @sses last night and has numbers that Tony could never hope to reach.
    Fri, Nov 09
    San Antonio Spurs at New Orleans Hornets 97-85

    T.Parker 39:26 min 11-20 fgm/a 4 rbs 8 ast 27 pts (+/- +25)
    C.Paul 34:14 min 8-15 fgm/a 1 rbs 7 ast 18 pts (+/- -25)

    Sat, Jan 26
    New Orleans Hornets at San Antonio Spurs 102-78

    T.Parker 30:39 min 8-16 fgm/a 2 rbs 6 ast 17 pts (+/- -16)
    C.Paul 38:13 min 8-16 fgm/a 4 rbs 11 ast 17 pts (+/- +30)

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    While it's true that Paul has undoubtedly had a better season so far than Parker, it should be noted that Parker has routinely dominated their matchups to date.

    Parker's Averages Against Paul
    31.6 Minutes
    17.2 Points
    6.8 Assists
    .554 Field Goal Percentage

    Paul's Averages Against Parker
    35.2 Minutes
    14.9 Points
    7.7 Assists
    .395 Field Goal Percentage

    That's some pretty nice domination by Parker. Paul only edges him in assists but if you adjust the minutes, that makes it a wash.

    Is Paul the better player? Yeah, I guess. But I'd have to actually see him thoroughly outplay Parker in a game at some point to be 100% sure. Paul's best game against Parker and the Spurs was the their first matchup, which was the only other time the Spurs lost against Paul and the Hornets with Parker on the court. Although even in that game, Parker put up impressive stats of his own.

    It's a great matchup. If the two teams play in the playoffs, the two point guards would put on a show. However, I do have to say that I'd be rather confident that a healthy Parker could take him.


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    Even if chris paul is the best player of the two, I have no doubt that parker is better suited for the spurs. Parker is a slasher rather than a true point guard. His play benefits the spurs since he can make his own shots whenever Duncan is ineffective in the post. Putting chris paul instead would take away this option.

    Chris paul is a true point guard. He prefers setting up plays and taking long shots (with the occassional drive in). Although an all star by his own right, he can't be what tony parker is with the spurs. Putting him to the spurs would change the entire system of the spurs.

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    This thread is useless because there is no way the hornets give you paul unless you give them parker and much more.

    And Paul is much better than Parker. I don't know why some fans try to hide behind this. Parker is good but Paul might be the best PG in the league right now

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    since CP3 rookie year I was for a straight up trade between the 2, and all I got was laughs


    now the Spurs would have to package Manu/Parker to get CP3, and the Hornets STILL wouldn't do it
    Suuuuuuuuuure you did. Really, I believe you. You're definitely not making this up to rationalize your being a whiny .

    And I'm also sure you're well-versed on the salary implications of trades and aren't just pulling it out of your ass.

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    HOw about Manu for Kobe while you're at it?

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    The Spurs players just don't have the fans they deserve (especially Tony and Manu)

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    this cannot be a serious thread.

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    timvp, I expect more from you.

    So what if Parker puts up better numbers in the head-to-head?

    Parker is on a championship-caliber team.

    Paul > Parker

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    Are the Spurs capable of winning the championship with parker as thier point guard? Yes. its been proven.
    Are the Spurs capable of winning with Paul. definitly, but not proven obviously.
    Stick with whats been working. Tony is the not the problem of the Spurs. How would Paul act having to defer to Tim Duncan and sometimes Manu the way Tony does.

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    Trading Tony Parker....

    thats just crazy talk.

    Chris Paul had a great game, sure.

    Somedays you're the dog, somedays you're the hydrant.
    The idea is to try to be the dog more often than the hydrant.
    Which these Spurs have proven they know how to do better than anyone.

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    timvp, I expect more from you.

    So what if Parker puts up better numbers in the head-to-head?

    Parker is on a championship-caliber team.

    Chris Whitney > Parker

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    comeon homers we know Kidd, Nash, Paul, Baron are all better than Parker.

    I'm just glad we have a top 5 PG in our team.

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    Seriously, though, timvp. You really think Parker is better than Paul? Next thing you'll try to sell me on is that Brady is better than Peyton because he has more rings.

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    Seriously, though, timvp. You really think Parker is better than Paul?
    I said that Paul is probably better. Is it to much to ask to see Paul outplay Parker one time before we make that 100% statement?

    Next thing you'll try to sell me on is that Brady is better than Peyton because he has more rings.
    If I'm in a must-win game and I can either have Brady or Manning, I pick Brady everyday of the week.

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    The top two threads on the page right now are "Duncan for Howard" and "Parker for Paul."

    Embarrassing.

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    The top two threads on the page right now are "Duncan for Howard" and "Parker for Paul."

    Embarrassing.
    Gotta love The Annual Swoon.

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    I said that Paul is probably better. Is it to much to ask to see Paul outplay Parker one time before we make that 100% statement?

    If I'm in a must-win game and I can either have Brady or Manning, I pick Brady everyday of the week.

    Wow.

    Didn't Marbury used to own Parker? You can't go on head-to-head matchups, because the dynamics are different. Who has more responsibility? Who is guarding who? Who plays on the better team.


    Tom Brady is an above average QB in a superior system.

    Peyton Manning is an elite QB on a good team.

    You put Paul on the Spurs or Manning on the Pats and they'll make it rain.

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    Wow.

    Didn't Marbury used to own Parker?
    Yeah and you used to say Marbury >>>> Parker.

    Remember?

    Question.

    You can't have it both ways.

    You can't go on head-to-head matchups, because the dynamics are different. Who has more responsibility? Who is guarding who? Who plays on the better team.
    So Chris Whitney got a bonus in 2002 for being on the worse team?


    Tom Brady is an above average QB in a superior system.

    Peyton Manning is an elite QB on a good team.
    The first year Brady has had decent wide receivers, he shatters Manning's cherished record. Give Manning the wide receivers Brady had last year and the Colts wouldn't have made the playoffs.

    You put Paul on the Spurs or Manning on the Pats and they'll make it rain.
    Statistically, yeah. Would both teams be as favored to win championships? Doubtful.

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    Sorry but its panic mode in Spurs city. I don't know why, its only January, but it is.
    thank god I live in VA, where saneness rules.

    -Mars

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