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Man...sounds like its gonna happen.
No one on their team plays that much
I just think the move gives them the ability to play both ways for the first time in a long time. They will still be able to run when Shaq goes to the bench with a small lineup, or be able to match up against big teams and slow it down for the first time ever. Their downfall has always been their ability to only play one speed, this might change things for them. I think its worth a shot, they havent been getting anywhere as it is.
Plus, Marion is going to opt out and leave no matter what, so they might as well try to get something for him now.
Man...sounds like its gonna happen.
They lose 2 rebounds and gain half a block, and lose 2 points scoring wise.
They already have one premeire defender
Marion's loss wouldn't be that big
But what has Shaq shown in the last 2 years to make anyone think he is still at all dominant???
Didn't have a great year last year, didn't do much in the sweep at the hands of the Bulls.
Has been hurt most of the year and mediocre when he has been on the court. I just don't see it.
They already have one premeire defenderMarion's loss wouldn't be that big
Come back and tell me that after Parker hangs 45 on em and the Spurs win by 15.
I don't think Parker could score 45 on anybody.
yeah ok.don't think Parker could score 45 on anybody.
Him scoring 32 with Marion on him alot of the time in game 1 last year, was just a fluke then.
Right on
Bell could guard Parker
Come back and tell me that after Parker hangs 45 on em and the Spurs win by 15.
Nash could guard Bowen
Hill could guard manu
Amare on Oberto
Shaq on Tim
Those arent bad matchups for the Suns
Parker's not hanging 25 on Bell
A lot of these "Shaq is too old, can't run, can't hold up..." arguments are reminiscent of what people said about Hill...
Shaq could not guard Tim 5 years ago, now all he can do is foul out or get owned badly. Hill can guard Manu, yeah maybe 7 years and 4 ankle surgeries ago. Amare's idea of D is to Dunk even harder so his teammates will just think he is trying so hard on offense, D is not neccesarry for him. Nash probably thinks it is a mortal sin to even attempt to play defense.
PfftBell could guard Parker
yeah right He doesn't have the foot quickness to guard Parker.
True hes hanging 30Parker's not hanging 25 on Bell
Please let that happenHill could guard manu
Welcome to a 6 point 5 rebound 5 foul night for Der Shaqster.Shaq on Tim
Yeah except uh, Shaq can't run PERIOD.A lot of these "Shaq is too old, can't run, can't hold up..." arguments are reminiscent of what people said about Hill...
His FEET ARE SHOT.
45-32 = ?
I like Parker, he's just not a volume scorer like that.
Hill has played fine so far but why give up a better player in Marion to get Shaq?? There is no doubt Shawn is better at this point, none whatsoever. He plays more minutes, better stats, stays far healthier.
With no Marion to guard him.......45-32 = ?
He can get more points...
They would have to slow the offense down and play half court while he was in the game. But that doesnt mean they wouldnt be able to do it. They could still go small and run with anyone.Pfft
yeah right He doesn't have the foot quickness to guard Parker.
True hes hanging 30
Please let that happen
Welcome to a 6 point 5 rebound 5 foul night for Der Shaqster.
Yeah except uh, Shaq can't run PERIOD.
His FEET ARE SHOT.
Something the Spurs already did to them.
Shaq added in just makes it easier to play Spurs ball.
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The Suns havent won with Marion
The Suns werent going to resign marion
Mine as well try something new
No. My point is he's not that kind of player. His career high I think is 38, which was unusual. You see shooters get hot and hit 45, 50 points in a game, but the way Parker gets his points, he wears out long before he can get there.
You take Marion away and Tony is healthy he will kill the Suns much worse than he already does.
I think Shaq and Amare would have problems staying out of each others' way on offense. Maybe if they had a whole season to figure it out, but it will be tough in just half a season.
And at this stage, losing Marion for Shaq would actually make the Suns weaker on the boards.
On paper, the Suns would come closer to achieving a half court balance by trading Amare for Shaq and keeping Marion. But that makes no sense in the long run.
I just don't see how this trade helps the Suns win THIS year. And Shaq's clock is ticking.
Yeah but he drops 25 a game on the Suns with ease, thanks to their style of play. How does getting rid of a good defender who helps out on him for a guy that won't guard him or really anyone for that matter improve limiting Tony's impact?? It makes it far worse for the Suns to deal with Tony.
Please sign that fat piece of Phoenix!
I agree they lose a lot in Marion, and no one is sure what exactly they will be getting with Shaq. But the Suns may be thinking they have a better shot at a le gambling on Shaq than sticking with Marion. I think, and I'm sure you'd agree, they've got to do something, because their current strategy has not and will not get them anywhere. Is Shaq the best solution? I don't know, could be, could be a disaster. But it shows the Suns realize change is needed and they are TRYING to doing something to match up better with real contenders. Who knows how this trade will turn out, but I for one would like to see it.
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