Spurs should try to get Haslem

[Holt's Cat]

The Spurs need better quality in their frontcourt rotation now.

[td4mvp21]

I like Haslem as a player a lot, he's having his best year (12 points, 9 rebounds), and he only makes the equivalent of the MLE (hoopshype has him down as 6.5 in 09 and 7.1 in 10)

But he's getting a little romanticized here because of the trade talk.

He had one great game in the Finals, the last game, and that's elevating him too much I think. He had 17 and 10 in that game while checking Dirk.

But for the series he only averaged 6.5 and 6.1, including that big game 6 of course. In games 4 and 5, which the Heat won, he had 2 pts, 2 rbs, 4 tos and 5 pfs in game 4. In game 5 he logged 2 points, 4 rebounds and 6 fouls.

He's not a shotblocker. He's basically a small, 6-8 Kurt Thomas. The best thing about him is that he has a reasonable contract and has proven himself a hard worker.

But that's in his hometown of Miami that he's been able to do this. Take him out of Miami, who's to say that he doesn't lose his hustle. If he lost that, he'd be another Malik. Except somewhat cheaper.

He's a good defender though and an excellent rebounder. He's tough and gritty, and does the dirty work. Also, stick him next to Duncan and Duncan can come from the weak side for the block. I think it'd be a great fit in San Antonio. Remember that baseline jumper Rasho used to get all the time? The jumper that Elson used to get set up for befor ehe started sucking ass? Yeah, that's the money shot Haslem will get. He's great from midrange.

[ShoogarBear]

In Pop's mind, Haslem would be the throw-in in that deal.

That made me laugh.

I could see Pop playing Blount major minutes while Haslem rots on the bench, then gets traded to Houston for a second-rounder.

[objective]

For the equivalent of the full MLE he's a great piece to have. There might not be any player on the FA market this summer better for MLE pricerange at least.

So I'd take him, but I'd take Mike Miller over Haslem easily, no question. Not that that's an issue since Memphis isn't talking like Miller is available, but still.

I'm thinking that if the Spurs really want to get Haslem the Spurs might include Mahinmi. After all, if you have Haslem locked up for two more years and Splitter coming over next year, not much room in the rotation for Mahinmi if the dream still exists to keep Bonner as your floor-spreading PF.

[objective]

... Remember that baseline jumper Rasho used to get all the time? The jumper that Elson used to get set up for befor ehe started sucking ass? Yeah, that's the money shot Haslem will get. He's great from midrange.

I don't disagree that that is the kind of shot Haslem would get.

But Rasho didn't get that many opportunities to shoot that shot. If he got it more than twice a game I'd be shocked.

[td4mvp21]

I don't disagree that that is the kind of shot Haslem would get.

But Rasho didn't get that many opportunities to shoot that shot. If he got it more than twice a game I'd be shocked.

That's because he wasn't reliable. Haslem is reliable, and therefore would probably get that shot as long as the defense was giving it to him.

[td4mvp21]

That made me laugh.

I could see Pop playing Blount major minutes while Haslem rots on the bench, then gets traded to Houston for a second-rounder.

[Ice009]

I can deal with disposing Elson or Bonner but I haven't given up on Horry. I think he has something for us come playoff time.

I don't think we can lure haslem to our team. I'm thinking more height might help the team. What about brandon bass? His bigger than haslem and as athletic -plus he doesn't come at a high price.

Come on man. Do you know who Avery Johnson is?

He would never trade anyone to our team to help make us better, that is not even going to work as a pipe dream.

[mavs>spurs2]

Haslem is perfect for the Spurs. Tough defender, good shooter, Dirk stopper.
Barry + Elson for Haslem?

...I think this is the dumbest post in ST history

I think it might take a little more than just scrubs to take Miami's 3rd best player

[td4mvp21]

...I think this is the dumbest post in ST history

I think it might take a little more than just scrubs to take Miami's 3rd best player

I think the Gasol trade proves anything is possible, especially for a suck ass team who might want expiring contracts. According to the Miami Herald (someone posted the link earlier), the Heat are looking to trade Haslem.

[tav1]

Of all the name's we've discussed, the two I find most appealing are Tryus Thomas and Udonis Haslem. It's impossible to know if the Spurs are trying to make a move, but Elson and a draft pick/Mahinmi for Thomas and/or Barry and a draft pick/Mahinmi for Haslem should be considered.

[T Park]

then gets traded to Houston for a second-rounder.

Dont do that....

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I don't demand much from the Spurs.
Just either Haslem, Miller, or Tyrus.

[T Park]

bottomtooth you are clearly an easy man to please

[MoSpur]

There are rumors that the Heat are wanting to trade Ricky Davis to the Grizz for Mike Miller. That kind of makes me wonder if the Heat really are interested in clearing cap space.

[JPB]

Key word : rumors

And there were no rumors for the Gasol and Shaq's trades.

[JPB]

I think one important issue concerning any potential trade for the spurs is how fast and really a newcomer could adapt to their system.

Some players are attractive from what they showing in their team but you have to ask yourself : what is his helping/hurting ratio in a short span ( also considering what you let go for him) ?

[ambchang]

...I think this is the dumbest post in ST history

I think it might take a little more than just scrubs to take Miami's 3rd best player

Yes, after the Gasol trade, this is indeed a stupid ass proposal.
So Gasol is Memphis's best player, memphis got a better record than Miami, and LA had to give up two sub-scrubs, a couple of picks and cash ... hmmm .....

[MoSpur]

Q: What does the future hold for the rest of the Heat's roster?



A: Other than Wade, nobody in that locker room can be 100 percent certain they'll be there after the trading deadline passes -- and they all seem to realize it. But the Heat can be more picky now in shopping the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis, and unless a key young piece can be acquired, Miami will be best served by letting those contracts come off the cap this summer. The Heat's most coveted trade chip right now is Udonis Haslem, who could be considered expendable if the Heat are going to move to a more uptempo style to suit Marion's strengths.[/

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...t&lid=tab1pos1

Elson plays an uptempo style.

[td4mvp21]

Q: What does the future hold for the rest of the Heat's roster?



A: Other than Wade, nobody in that locker room can be 100 percent certain they'll be there after the trading deadline passes -- and they all seem to realize it. But the Heat can be more picky now in shopping the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis, and unless a key young piece can be acquired, Miami will be best served by letting those contracts come off the cap this summer. The Heat's most coveted trade chip right now is Udonis Haslem, who could be considered expendable if the Heat are going to move to a more uptempo style to suit Marion's strengths.[/

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...t&lid=tab1pos1

Elson plays an uptempo style.

He sucks but the one thing he could do ok would be run the break. Hopefully the Spurs have at least talked to the Heat about a deal for Haslem. I doubt it though.

[MoSpur]

I'm sure the Spurs have had talks. At least IMO. Pop likes Haslem. I'm sure a conversation has taken place.

[timvp]

In a perfect world, Ginobili and Oberto would both come off the bench. Those two could just run pick-and-rolls while Duncan rests. A bench five of Ginobili, Oberto, Horry, Barry and Stoudamire would be pretty deadly because the Spurs would be able to run pick-and-rolls with three three-point shooters on the court to space the floor.

Haslem could fit with the starters because he is both a post defender and is agile enough to step out and guard players Duncan can't guard. Plus Haslem can hit that medium range jumper when Duncan is doubled. It'd actually work out nicely ... in theory, at least.

[T Park]

Works so perfectly it can't happen.

Like Jermaine O'Neal signing here in 03.

[objective]

In a perfect world, Ginobili and Oberto would both come off the bench. Those two could just run pick-and-rolls while Duncan rests. A bench five of Ginobili, Oberto, Horry, Barry and Stoudamire would be pretty deadly because the Spurs would be able to run pick-and-rolls with three three-point shooters on the court to space the floor.

Haslem could fit with the starters because he is both a post defender and is agile enough to step out and guard players Duncan can't guard. Plus Haslem can hit that medium range jumper when Duncan is doubled. It'd actually work out nicely ... in theory, at least.

I don't think the deal could be made without including Barry's contract.

[ss1986v2]

I don't think the deal could be made without including Barry's contract.

you could technically do horry+elson as the base, with miami agreeing to buy-out horry, so he could return to the spurs after 30 days. which is legal iirc, as long as horry is cut before march 1st.