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The deal would be based on Barry coming back. Spurs have a couple of second round picks, Toronto's and theirs to try to get the job done.
If he is waived and if he decides to chose Spurs over other teams.
It's not a sure thing.
If Seattle gets Barry, I can see them keeping him unless there is a pre-arrangement. Barry is a good vet and played a lot there.
The deal would be based on Barry coming back. Spurs have a couple of second round picks, Toronto's and theirs to try to get the job done.
NJ will keep Diop. He's a perfect foil for Krstic looking forward.
T Park - do you have information on Barry that we don't? Why are you so convinced he won't play again this season when the doctors only put him out for a month?
maybe we could get diop after this season ^^
Diop IS more athletic, I think that is something to consider. I'd take either of them at this point.
36Why are you so convinced he won't play again this season when the doctors only put him out for a month?
hurt the same calf muscle seriously twice?
If he does come back he won't be able to run that well or prob shoot that well.
Just a fact. Hes old and hurting that part of a shooter's body is murder.
Not really.
Thomas is a better player all the way around.
Its a no brainer.
Diop averages 5.3 rpg in only 17 minutes, along with 1.3 bpg. Pretty ing efficient if you ask me.
Thomas does have the nice midrange jumper though.
Thomas is a better defender, and is not as rigid as everyone thinks.
He kept up alright with Phoenix last year.
Were all saying this and I gaurantee the Spurs are saying
"Why would we want Diop or Thomas?"
Where did you find that out? I have been working with salary information from
http://www.storytellerscontracts.info
If your infor is accurate, we wouldn't have to send any cash to Miami. They would be saving money on the exchange of players, despite Elson being higher paid than Mourning. Doesn't really make much of a difference to the core of the proposal...
Probably
So does Jason Kidd's.
Maybe it will rejuvenate the memories of those Spur fans who insisted he should have been drafted ahead of Tim Duncan that year.Will this rejuvenate his corpse of a career? Will putting on that Nets uniform remind him of the best years of his career and convince him to come out of retirement to shine once again in front of the Nets faithful at the Izod Center?
Statistically, Diop is a better shot blocker. He also draws more fouls and has a better EFG% (mostly because he plays a lot more inside. 82 games shows Diop taking 84% of his shots from "inside", whereas K. Thomas only take 27%).
OMGMaybe it will rejuvenate the memories of those Spur fans who insisted he should have been drafted ahead of Tim Duncan that year.
are you serious!?!?!?
You got anything to back this up? I was under the impression that they were pretty happy with Sean Williams as a future foil for Krstic...
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...00&postcount=6
The max allowed is to give 80% of the salary before the start of the season.
I guess that Spurs have decided to give the max allowed because the goal was to discourage Nuggets to match.
Not a total no brainer. Sure Thomas is a reliable scorer, rebounder and sturdy defender. Yet Diop has the one thing that Thomas doesn't have - SIZE. Diop's shotblocking presence around the rim makes the better candidate for what the Spurs need. They don't necessarily need him to score. Just rebound, block shots, and defend the post.
Thomas cannot guard a Shaq or a Bynum. Duncan certainly could use Thomas as a running mate, but Diop's size makes for a better tandem against the newly super-sized teams like the Fakers and Suns. Plus he's younger and cheaper.
Why is that.Thomas cannot guard a Shaq or a Bynum
Hes a big a body that can push and shove em out.
That makes no sense at all.
Not to mention Diop is more mobile than Thomas, and could go outside with Gasol and possibly with Amare. Diop could also handle pick and roll switches that would match him up with Dirk on the perimeter (better, at least, than Thomas).
pad300 - no, just my opinion. They agve away their best post defender in Collins, so it makes sense to me that they'll want to keep a guy like Diop.
T Park - I don't think Barry will come back until he's confident in the calf. It's premature to assume he's done for the season.
I don't think Nets wnat to keep Diop. They still have 3 young big men they like with Kristic, Sean Williams and Boone.
Diop won't be easy to keep because he will be an UFA this summer.
IMO, Diop is more available than Thomas.
And I won't make some wild guess on Barry. I'm not a doctor and don't know the exact state of Barry's calf. Playoff are a couple of months away and Barry could easily be at 100% for it.
Barry has played really well this year, he is an important part of Spurs, especially when they play small.
When he came back 100% last time he lasted what, a whole 3 games?T Park - I don't think Barry will come back until he's confident in the calf. It's premature to assume he's done for the season.
Im glad your optimistic.
I don't think Kristic though is playing right now is he?I don't think Nets wnat to keep Diop. They still have 3 young big men they like with Kristic, Sean Williams and Boone.
Diop won't be easy to keep because he will be an UFA this summer.
IMO, Diop is more available than Thomas.
If he isn't they will prob want to keep him and have a low post defensive presence.
What the Nets want to do in the abstract and what Rod Thorn's petulant, spiteful at ude leads him to do in actuality do not always coincide.
As for the Diop-vs.-Thomas debate, Thomas is likely the better player but the Spurs could use Diop more. KT is, essentially, a souped-up Fab Oberto.
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