Any update on Barry?
If Barry's calf becomes whole again, I'd want him to stay. He's the guy I feel most comfortable shooting three's...and this team relies heavily on three's. Plus his passing, transition D, court awareness and chemistry are all very good. I don't really want to lose him.
IF he can get healthy again.
If not...
i am not so sure.. but his willingness to win a ring will make him behave and get some spotlight before free agency
Kleiza is a SF/PF.
He is only 23 years old and has a very good season. He has a high trade value.
If spurs were the bad guys last season, with artest in the team, they would be the axis of terror, specially for the refs.
I don't want this guy in the locker room!
I need to clear my head from the Vegas weekend but I'm not 100% sure I'd be behind acquiring Artest. Defensively, great fit. Chemistry-wise, not a very good fit but I wouldn't be too worried about that because the Spurs have such good chemistry as is that one rotten egg wouldn't spoil it.
Offensively is where I'm not convinced he'd work. The ball always gets stuck on him when he's in a team setting. He over-dribbles, holds the ball too long and isn't known to make the extra pass. Perhaps that would change once he came to the unselfish atmosphere of the Spurs, but I'm so sure.
Basically, I like the Spurs how they are currently constructed. You bring in someone like Artest and you have to change a whole lot ... especially offensively. I'm not ready to blow up the offense. I'd prefer a more seamless fit like Mike Miller who could fit in with what the Spurs do. Artest is pretty much a basketball loner when he's on the court. Even defensively he's not great in terms of rotating.
A trade for Artest, even if not giving up much, would be a panic trade. Unless the Spurs have reason to panic, my opinion in my current state is that they should leave well enough alone.
However, I'll come with my final answer later in the day ........
Exactly. Dude scorched the Jazz for 41pts earlier this year and has played great BUT has been terrible lately and i think it's due to all the trade buzz around him.
I'll be glad when the deadline passes coz i guess young guys can get sidetracked by that kind of stuff.
Get this fvcking deal done now.
I don't give a damn how big a thug he is or whether he is as insane as jeffrey dahmer...MAKE THIS TRADE!
Artest has had a very short shelf-life at every stop he's been at. He's never been happy wherever he's been and basically is a powderkeg waiting to explode.
If the Spurs DID get him, he'd probably only be good for about 2 seasons.
That's probably as long as they want him. Hoopshype has him with a player option next year...? Through next season is likely the last they'd want him.
The spurs front office reads in here.
Parker
Manu
Bowen
Artest
Duncan
how could any team compete with that? that is also the best small ball lineup in the NBA
For laughs.
Especially as soon as they read "I would put Manu on the trading block" from the genius that is Rascal.
Artest + Beno for Parker?
But Kings can't afford it.
I like those per 48 minute projections. Its not an advantage to play fewer minutes.
Problem with it, you can project every players stats in the league per 48 minutes and you would find incredibly high numbers. Also what are the difference in numbers when Duncan or Parker or Kobe or any of the other stars are out of the game?
Unless you have all the stats you cannot justly compare the numbers.
Kori: Any feedback to you that the spurs or the spurs front office reads in here?
There is a reason why teams are passing up on Artest. He's even crazier than what you see in games. I've read reports from NBA scouts who say Artest will not correctly run plays down the stretch if they are not run for him. Instead of setting screens for other guys he's flashing down in the post demanding the ball. The guy is a certified nutcase and if you want him on your team you're even crazier than he is.
I'm sure they do, but not to get trade ideas.
The great thing about that is, if he starts breaking plays he'll get benched. His former teams depended on him too much and Artest could always argue he was the best player on the team -- even if it wasn't true. He would be the fourth option on the Spurs, and if he didn't play like it, he wouldn't be an option at all.
What ever happened to our system being so difficult that it takes a little over a year to pick up?
I like this deal though, dont know if Pop likes the idea of Artest on his roster though.
Not to mention i'd be scared to sit within the first 15 rows of any Spurs games.
Exactly. That's what has me intrigued, if not actually fully on board. Artest has always been the number one or two guy on his team. In Indiana, O'Neal was perhaps number one, but not by much, and Reggie was checking out more or less. In Sacramento Artest can be said to have been number one. Artest is a luxury, in a way, if the Spurs got him, because they don't need him and he's fourth in the pecking order. If it were Barry+Elson alone, I'd do it and see what comes.
Also, he's never been on a team with strong personalities. Indiana had no strong personalities - as great as Reggie was, he was never dominant - and give me a break with Sacramento, with weak coaches and Bibby and Brad Miller, hardly strong types. San Antonio has two dominant personalities, Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich. I'd just say, if there were anywhere where Artest would work, it's San Antonio.
But the breaking plays and not working in set offenses is probably the killing point.
no thanks
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