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[Ghost Writer]

If there was an award for the person that annoyed the out of me the most on this board... you would be the 5 time repeat champion.

You're a fair weather poster and fan. You have the basketball mentality and knowledge of a Sun Fan.

In fact, you WOULD be a Sun fan if you were born anywhere else.

No one likes you.

No one gives a what you think.

The only reason people post on your threads is because of how much you ing suck and they want to be a part of the train wreck.

You're the Sanjia Malakar of Spurstalk posters.

I just got you to post, fvckf4ce.

[FromWayDowntown]

Um, what does that have to do with this thread?

We're talking about adding talent, not keeping it.

I was just playing along. Still, the overarching issue isn't how the talent gets there but whether the talent is there. It's like questioning the methods that Michelangelo used to paint the Sistine Chapel -- does it really matter how it got done or that the end product is a work of art?

[Holt's Cat]

and manage to keep them 2 of them who shopped around for free agent deals?

Of course, that doesn't count because those were the Spurs' own free agents.

Duncan re-signed twice and then signed an extension on top of that. If that is not a validation of the Spurs' front office, I don't know.

[Ghost Writer]

And I'd argue that the thing that has made the Spurs the dominant franchise in the league for the past decade is realizing that the key to winning isn't surrounding Tim Duncan just with talented guys, but is, instead, surrounding Tim Duncan with talented guys who fill particular roles and are unquestionably accountable and professional.

Winning isn't just about aggregating talent.

And I'd argue that you'll make up any excuse in the book not to trade 3 guys that aren't currently contributing to the Spurs for Ron f'n Artest.

Fine...

Get Thomas.

I don't give afvck.

Just don't do nothing and arrogantly pretend that the Finals are the Spurs' en lement.

[Holt's Cat]

The draft.

What's wrong with that?

[Ghost Writer]

Of course, that doesn't count because those were the Spurs' own free agents.

Duncan re-signed twice and then signed an extension on top of that. If that is not a validation of the Spurs' front office, I don't know.

No one ever argued that the Spurs don't do well in drafts or have not been able to re-sign their stars.

This thread is about the Western contenders upping the ante and whether we have enough to still win it all.

[Holt's Cat]

And I'd argue that you'll make up any excuse in the book not to trade 3 guys that aren't currently contributing to the Spurs for Ron f'n Artest.

Fine...

Get Thomas.

I don't give afvck.

Just don't do nothing and arrogantly pretend that the Finals are the Spurs' en lement.

Well, it's easy to feel confident about the Spurs' championship chances considering that they've won 3 out of the last 5 NBA championships.

[Ghost Writer]

What's wrong with that?

Nothing.

Can we add to the Big Three now?

[Holt's Cat]

No one ever argued that the Spurs don't do well in drafts or have not been able to re-sign their stars.

Yet somehow it's a glaring problem as they haven't acquired one of those stars from another team.

[Ghost Writer]

Well, it's easy to feel confident about the Spurs' championship chances considering that they've won 3 out of the last 5 NBA championships.

Please read the first post in this thread to discover why that amounts to nothing on Feb. 20, 2008.

[FromWayDowntown]

And I'd argue that you'll make up any excuse in the book not to trade 3 guys that aren't currently contributing to the Spurs for Ron f'n Artest.

Fine...

Get Thomas.

I don't give afvck.

Just don't do nothing and arrogantly pretend that the Finals are the Spurs' en lement.

You can argue that all you want -- my quarrel isn't with the idea of making a trade; it's with the idea that Artest is a better fit with the Spurs than other guys might be. I don't know why you're turning into such a about this. We disagree. Did you really expect that you're going to convert me (or others) to the idea that Artest is a better fit here? Talk about arrogance.

[Holt's Cat]

Nothing.

Can we add to the Big Three now?

They've added to the big 3 and won les. Pay attention.

[Ghost Writer]

Yet somehow it's a glaring problem as they haven't acquired one of those stars from another team.

Not really.

It's questionable as to why the Spurs either won't or can't improve the team outside of the draft, particularly this season when we have some health and effectiveness issues in the starting lineup and our rivals have all made moves to improve.

[Holt's Cat]

You can argue that all you want -- my quarrel isn't with the idea of making a trade; it's with the idea that Artest is a better fit with the Spurs than other guys might be. I don't know why you're turning into such a about this. We disagree. Did you really expect that you're going to convert me (or others) to the idea that Artest is a better fit here? Talk about arrogance.

The true issue here is not trading for stars or ballas but something else. His ego. He needs to feel like he's making waves somewhere...

[MadDog73]

Maybe I'm just a Hopeless Homer, but I really don't see how Shaq helps the Suns run-and-gun style, or how a past-his-prime PG we beat in 2003 helps the Mavs. , if Steve Nash couldn't give the Mavs a le, how the is Kidd going to do it?

Spurs have the best PG in the NBA. The best center in the NBA. The best defender in the NBA. The best Manu in the NBA (can't classify Manu, sorry). And, some of the best 3-point shooters in the NBA.

Will we win? Who knows. Who predicted the Spurs would win last year, when we didn't make any incredible trades, and we were too old, and tired....

just like this year.

[Holt's Cat]

Not really.

It's questionable as to why the Spurs either won't or can't improve the team outside of the draft, particularly this season when we have some health and effectiveness issues in the starting lineup and our rivals have all made moves to improve.

The Spurs have built a championship level supporting cast that's helped them win 3 les in 5 years and come damn near close in the other 2 years.

[Ghost Writer]

You can argue that all you want -- my quarrel isn't with the idea of making a trade; it's with the idea that Artest is a better fit with the Spurs than other guys might be. I don't know why you're turning into such a about this. We disagree. Did you really expect that you're going to convert me (or others) to the idea that Artest is a better fit here? Talk about arrogance.

No.

Relax.

As I said and explained a billion times for you, Mr. Thickhead, I prefer Artest, but would take Thomas.

Read before reacting, please.

I will not be happy doing nothing and rolling the dice.

I'm not convinced even at 100% that this team can duplicate last year's success given the moves in the West and our general atrophy.

Should I type slower?

[Holt's Cat]

Please read the first post in this thread to discover why that amounts to nothing on Feb. 20, 2008.

Because you've whined about the Spurs not making major trades, having "ballas" on the roster, and not drafting with lottery picks since Feb. 20, 1998?

[Ghost Writer]

The Spurs have built a championship level supporting cast that's helped them win 3 les in 5 years and come damn near close in the other 2 years.

Duh.

Have you noticed that this year, they aren't 100% and the rest of the West has reloaded?

Stop living off your laurels.

[Ghost Writer]

Because you've whined about the Spurs not making major trades, having "ballas" on the roster, and not drafting with lottery picks since Feb. 20, 1998?

Huh?

Please read my first post in this thread and stay on topic.

[Holt's Cat]

Have you noticed that Parker is coming back and that Phoenix has slowed down and the Mavs have dealt their Spur killers?

dude, go rub one out whenever you feel the urge to .

[Holt's Cat]

Huh?

Please read my first post in this thread and stay on topic.

that I'll respond to what I see on the page.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Thomas will be bought out.

I think the Kings might sit on Artest until the summer.


If they aren't available, wwgwd?

[MadDog73]

GW, if the Spurs don't win the le, the Pistons or Celtics will.

So don't worry.

[Ghost Writer]

The true issue here is not trading for stars or ballas but something else. His ego. He needs to feel like he's making waves somewhere...

Unsubstantiated and desperate.

I endorsed your Thomas deal if Artest can't be done.

The point is not thinking last year's success equates to winning it again this year by bringing back the same exact team.

Oh, and looking to capitalize on unique opportunities to address weaknesses at 1. the PF/C and 2. the SF/SG spots via a single midseason trade.

Why are you so deadset against improving through a shrewd deal?