Is anyone passionately FOR Hillary Clinton?

[peewee's lovechild]

Health care costs out the ying yang.

The difference is that you have a job and are now just paying for YOUR families health care. With universal health care you will not only be paying for yours, but everyone elses that chooses NOT to work.

If you think universal health care will SAVE you money you are delusional.

As opposed to the tax money I pay that goes into programs and people I don't give a about already?

[peewee's lovechild]

K - so she's promised you "free" healthcare and Obama hasn't in his speeches.

Thats all you had to say.

Good job, you read the last part of my post.

Start from the top.

[peewee's lovechild]

do people realize that this "free" universal healthcare isn't that? free. i thought people want small government. this whole "global warming" scam. just wait for the carbon tax. oh and did anyone hear about the Global Poverty Act that just passed in the senate. you'll be happy to see who was the sponsor for that one, but for you "change" people, i don't want to bore you with details.

How do you propose our government do anything at all without collecting taxes?

Small or big government, taxes are inevitable.

[CosmicCowboy]

As opposed to the tax money I pay that goes into programs and people I don't give a about already?

Oh no...they still want that money too...they just want you to pay for their universal health care too.

[Spurminator]

Why does it become a problem, though? Why does it have to be an issue at all?

Because Americans don't like having their beliefs undermined.

We'd rather you pretend to believe what we believe than admit to believing something that contradicts our beliefs.

(That sentence was written horribly I know... but you get what I'm saying?)

[JoeChalupa]

There is also the Clinton/Obama debate on tonight.

[CosmicCowboy]

There is also the Clinton/Obama debate on tonight.

Yeah, no WAY I'm missing that one!

[Richard Cranium]

[CuckingFunt]

I was an Edwards girl.

Ditto.

I'll be voting for whomever gets the nomination, but I don't have a tremendous amount of faith in either of their ability to beat McCain.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Ditto.

I'll be voting for whomever gets the nomination, but I don't have a tremendous amount of faith in either of their ability to beat McCain.

the writing is on the wall. obama's getting the nomination. he's going to be our next president. the only way mccain will win is if, God forbid, we have another terror attack. this whole "let's talk" to our enemy at ude of obama's is not very settling to me.

[urunobili]

GO Hillary!

[Trainwreck2100]

the writing is on the wall. obama's getting the nomination. he's going to be our next president. the only way mccain will win is if, God forbid, we have another terror attack. this whole "let's talk" to our enemy at ude of obama's is not very settling to me.

I'd wait to see the % of Hispanic voters that vote for him in this primary before I declare him the winner

[JoeChalupa]

the writing is on the wall. obama's getting the nomination. he's going to be our next president. the only way mccain will win is if, God forbid, we have another terror attack. this whole "let's talk" to our enemy at ude of obama's is not very settling to me.

Without talking to the enemy the Berlin wall would not have come down. Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

[JoeChalupa]

I'd wait to see the % of Hispanic voters that vote for him in this primary before I declare him the winner

I feel the younger hispanic vote will go to Barack. The Obamamentum is gaining strength each and every day.

I respect McCain too.

[Spurminator]

Without talking to the enemy the Berlin wall would not have come down.

That sounds like something you may have plagiarized.

[ploto]

I know a lot of college aged women who ARE passionately for Hillary.

[JoeChalupa]

That sounds like something you may have plagiarized.

They are "just words".

[CosmicCowboy]

I know a lot of college aged women who ARE passionately for Hillary.

Well, if you don't do it for yourself then do it for your country.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

A McCain/Obama election would be an interesting race, really interesting.


For those keeping score on the democratic side, Hillary is done. Once the the momemtum gets going behind a candidate in these primaries it's all but over...and Obama has the momentum.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

manny and peewee, unless something has changed, i thought hilary and obama's health care plans were virtually identical, save for the fact that hillary actually explains how she'd pay for it.

[BonnerDynasty]

How will it affect the economy if interest rates are frozen for 5 years? What about giving the poor victims who were forced into their ARM 90 days to not have to pay what they owe?

Question.

[dallaskd]

OK, I admit that I am a middle of the road Republican/Independent ( I never agree 100% with the Republican platform especially on divisive issues like abortion rights) and tend to socialize/work with folk that share similar beliefs but virtually everyone I know DESPISES Hillary Clinton.

I keep reading that Texans love Hillary, especially Hispanics, and that Texas is where Hillary is going to make her big comeback.

There is a huge cross section of folks in here that share a love of basketball but are very politically diverse...

Who in here is passionately FOR Hillary Clinton and why?

you realize there is a politics forum right below this forum?

[ashbeeigh]

As much as I hate agreeing with Manny in most aspects, a lot of what he has said in this thread is correct. I'd be saying a lot of the same things he has, just not as eloquently.



Obama brings me the hope that this government can come together to work together to create a better place for this country through not being a "divided" states of America, but a "united" states of America.

unless something has changed, i thought hilary and obama's health care plans were virtually identical, save for the fact that hillary actually explains how she'd pay for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7xDxUn0AY8


Not very true.

and here it is from his website:

National Health Insurance Exchange: The Obama plan will create a National Health Insurance Exchange to help individuals who wish to purchase a private insurance plan. The Exchange will act as a watchdog group and help reform the private insurance market by creating rules and standards for participating insurance plans to ensure fairness and to make individual coverage more affordable and accessible. Insurers would have to issue every applicant a policy, and charge fair and stable premiums that will not depend upon health status. The Exchange will require that all the plans offered are at least as generous as the new public plan and have the same standards for quality and efficiency. The Exchange would evaluate plans and make the differences among the plans, including cost of services, public.

What's she going to do for me, who pays $113/month for healthcare?

[ShoogarBear]

Why does it become a problem, though? Why does it have to be an issue at all?

Because hypocrisy is as American as apple pie.

[GaryJohnston]

that