***OFFICIAL HENDO>SILVA (UFC 82) Fight Thread***

[dallaskd]

Mayhem Miller? you can throw some many names out there but when someone is that on top of their game then your just guessing.

[Evan]

That's one of a list dallaskd!

Miller is interesting but he would really have to work on his striking. I have been saying for awhile that is he learns how to KO he would be one of the most fan favorite MMA fighter out there.

I know I know I know Franklin was over hyped but IMO he has a good as a chance as anyone on that list physically but I would have to think Silva is in his head big time. Rich probably needs 3 or 4 more fights distance to shake away that nightmare.

I love Okami but I am not sure he is ready. Next year?

Filho is interesting. I cannot see him staying in the WEC much longer.

If Lindland hadn't spent the last few years trash talking the UFC and had gotten fully released from his Bodog contract he would have been a fascinating match-up this year.

Wandy...The UFC needs to be very careful with him. As long as he doesn't get a le shot soon I have zero problem with the UFC feeding him some semi-cans. Just take him out of the le loop and let him get his game back. Feed him some prospect who he will deliver a massive KO to as he makes his first UFC fight then perhaps let him send Stephan Bonnar packing into obscurity.

I dunno...what the do you do with the guy?

[dallaskd]

Silva is the baddest man on the planet right now. If he moved up to 205 i am telling ya Rampage would lose to him.

Slow down there. I dont know about that. Rampage is alot physically stonger and is alot better gorund fighter. In striking Silva would have an advantage, but in the clinch and on the ground Jackson would overpower Silva IMO. Plus i dont think Silva ever will move from 185 in his career.

[dallaskd]

That's one of a list dallaskd!

Miller is interesting but he would really have to work on his striking. I have been saying for awhile that is he learns how to KO he would be one of the most fan favorite MMA fighter out there.

I know I know I know Franklin was over hyped but IMO he has a good as a chance as anyone on that list physically but I would have to think Silva is in his head big time. Rich probably needs 3 or 4 more fights distance to shake away that nightmare.

I love Okami but I am not sure he is ready. Next year?

Filho is interesting. I cannot see him staying in the WEC much longer.

If Lindland hadn't spent the last few years trash talking the UFC and had gotten fully released from his Bodog contract he would have been a fascinating match-up this year.

Wandy...The UFC needs to be very careful with him. As long as he doesn't get a le shot soon I have zero problem with the UFC feeding him some semi-cans. Just take him out of the le loop and let him get his game back. Feed him some prospect who he will deliver a massive KO to as he makes his first UFC fight then perhaps let him send Stephan Bonnar packing into obscurity.

I dunno...what the do you do with the guy?

I agree. I think Franklin has the best shot IMO if he can get Silva out of his nightmares and go balls out. Filho has the best shot as of today, but i dont think he will want to fight Anderson but he eventually will if this keeps up. Honestly, I think Wandy would handle Anderson fairly easily which is a long stretch. But I dont think he will drop after he beats Jardine. Okami could power him to the ground but would he do once the fight gets there? Im sure Lindland would have no problem considered hes fought Fedor and some other world class fighters at higher weight classes. Chael Sonnen looked good vs Filho...but im not sure how you beat Anderson. No one has ever gone out and flat out beat him. He got DQ'd vs Okami and lost by a (i dont like to say fluke but) a fluke flying scissor heel hook to Ryo Chonan. I never saw his first submission loss in Pride but that would be interesting to see even though it was about 4 or 5 years ago. something like that.

I think the biggest question is...How do you beat him? I was about 90% sure Hendo could take silva down and get him on his back. And Hendo did a great job GnP him for an entire round. He is just so hard to KO and few guys have better BJJ in the division. Its as if you need Franklins body, Filho's BJJ, Okami's wrestling/GnP, and the heart of a Dan Henderson. If Filho or someone like Jeremy Horn could get him on the ground that would be an amazing JJ war but both would get KO'd on the feet. As of right now the only guy I am confident would beat Silva is Wandy and I dont see him Going to MW unless he has a tough win or loss to Jardine. I just hope if that is true..he moves down weight and doesnt leave the org like Cro Cop. Should be an interesting year in the UFC and very interesting in the next 4 or 5 months.

[dallaskd]

Just imagine Wanderlei and Anderson in the clinch kneeing each other to death...

[polandprzem]

Now what's with Dan?

he will probably be back in 205, but than again, he will have to fight his way back into a championship bout.

To me it was to early to challange the champions (the best of 3 - GSP) in his first fights (in a long time) in the octagon.

Ohh well, I'm not pleased. And I need to find some fighters I will cheer for.

[dallaskd]

i thought dan did a really good job. he dominated the first round and did a decent job in the second. Hendo will stay at 185. its his natural weight class. Let him win 3 in a row and then he will challenge again.

[polandprzem]

i thought dan did a really good job. he dominated the first round and did a decent job in the second. Hendo will stay at 185. its his natural weight class. Let him win 3 in a row and then he will challenge again.

I don't know if it's his natural weight class. He is older and it's not easy to keep the weight. He is natuarly over 190 as I remember.
He could do a better job. IMO he was not agresive as he could have been , but against silva it would possibly be death (well great risk).

I don't know if to dowload whole card or only Dan vs Silva fight.

[dallaskd]

I don't know if to dowload whole card or only Dan vs Silva fight.

Kos vs Hazelett was fight of the night IMO. Leben-Sakara was good so was Herring-Kongo. I would buy those and Tanner-Okami.

[djohn14]

What was that last sentence polandprzem? Anderson Silva cant be stopped!!!

[dallaskd]

Havnt see the Sanchez, mo, or Arlovski fights yet.

[dallaskd]

What was that last sentence polandprzem? Anderson Silva cant be stopped!!!

I disagree. Its hard to see him being stopped with the current situation the UFC is in. They have no choice but to give Okami next. Outside the UFC he has a lot of stiff compe ion in Kang, Lindland, Filho, ect. No one is unbeatable. I didnt think Diaz would beat Gomi either. If Wandy were too move down(as i said before) I think he could handle Anderson Silva. It would definately be a war though.

[dallaskd]

Havnt see the Sanchez, mo, or Arlovski fights yet.

or gurgel

[polandprzem]

Kos vs Hazelett was fight of the night IMO. Leben-Sakara was good so was Herring-Kongo. I would buy those and Tanner-Okami.

Well I was watching those fights, but it was 5-6am before going to job, so I had to prepare myself and watch and the quality was not perfect.
So I must say I do not remember the details of the fights

I always look for top level fights.
I need some more material to burn teh dvd's.

btw.
Still learning this sport and the fighters

[djohn14]

I disagree. Its hard to see him being stopped with the current situation the UFC is in. They have no choice but to give Okami next. Outside the UFC he has a lot of stiff compe ion in Kang, Lindland, Filho, ect. No one is unbeatable. I didnt think Diaz would beat Gomi either. If Wandy were too move down(as i said before) I think he could handle Anderson Silva. It would definately be a war though.

Yeah, No one is unbeatable, I got a little carried away. The dude is a beast though. I'd love to see him and Filho, but he said they train togather and are like brothers and that will never happen. By the way, your right about KOS and Hazelett was fight of the night. Great non-stop action!

[LEONARD]

Hendo should've worked harder for the takedown...he played around standing way too long. I was afraid he might do that because he does hit hard and hard a good chin. Silva is a beast though...no idea what's next for him. He'll probably request Okami to avenge that "loss." Although he did call-out Roy Jones Jr in some kind of match

Very impressed with Heath...

Fitch continues to roll, although it wasn't the most exciting fight...

Poor Tanner...I didn't want him or Okami to lose. I figure Okami is next for Silva since that's Silva's last loss (DQ)...

Maybe we finally won't have to see Sakara in the UFC...seriously, how does he keep getting on cards?

Arlovski is GONE...if there was any hope of him re-signing with the UFC they would've showed his fight instead of Koscheck. Koscheck was also on the last fight of his contract...

All .nsv files except for intro (.asf). Need Winamp for nsv.

Show intro
http://www.mediafire.com/?yhe3ynynnvl

Main Card Bouts:

-Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbzhvu2d1bf

-Cheick Kongo vs. Heath Herring
http://www.mediafire.com/?mt0whmzsy4o

-Jon Fitch vs. Chris Wilson
http://www.mediafire.com/?mo4n4risdlt

-Yushin Okami vs. Evan Tanner
http://www.mediafire.com/?nmundgh9y17

-Chris Leben vs. Alessio Sakara
http://www.mediafire.com/?ywkqar0ouzy

Preliminary Bouts:

-Josh Koscheck vs. Dustin Hazelett (aired)
http://www.mediafire.com/?r9ghm9nrxyg

un-aired prelims (wmv files)...high quality

Andrei Arlovski vs. Jake O'Brien (un-aired)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3q1x7i

Diego Sanchez vs. David Bielkheden (un-aired)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h590uk

I don't know if it's his natural weight class. He is older and it's not easy to keep the weight. He is natuarly over 190 as I remember.

Having met a few fighters including Dan, he's certainly no LHW...he's very small. I was surprised...

[Evan]

Poor Tanner...I didn't want him or Okami to lose. I figure Okami is next for Silva since that's Silva's last loss (DQ)...

Just stunned that he was matched to Okami. Like I have said before...I am certain Okami specifically asked for him.

Okami may be one of the coolest fighters in MMA but unless he learns English it will never become known. Read an interview with the guy and you will walk away impressed.

I hate that he will have to be go through the Silva grinder.

[LEONARD]

No idea why he took Okami as his return fight...

[Evan]

I love Tanner but he is not the brightest guy...

[LEONARD]

Arlovski made most (ignoring $60k bonus')...

Herring did well for himself...

Hendo had potential to make the most...

Hazelett's base was more than Koscheck's...

MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS

-Anderson Silva: $140,000 (defeated Dan Henderson; win bonus was $70,000)

-Dan Henderson: $100,000 (lost to Anderson Silva; win bonus would have been $150,000)

MAIN CARD FIGHTERS

-Heath Herring: $140,000 (defeated Cheick Kongo; win bonus was $70,000)

-Jon Fitch: $60,000 (defeated Chris Wilson; win bonus was $30,000)

-Chris Leben: $50,000 (defeated Alessio Sakara; win bonus was $25,000)

-Cheick Kongo: $30,000 (lost to Heath Herring; win bonus would have been $30,000)

-Yushin Okami: $28,000 (defeated Evan Tanner; win bonus was $14,000)

-Evan Tanner: $25,000 (lost to Yushin Okami; win bonus would have been $25,000)

-Alessio Sakara: $17,000 (lost to Chris Leben; win bonus would have been $17,000)

-Chris Wilson: $12,000 (lost to Jon Fitch; win bonus would have been $12,000)

PRELIMINARY MATCH FIGHTERS

-Andrei Arlovski: $170,000 (defeated Jake O’Brien; win bonus was $65,000)

-Diego Sanchez: $60,000 (defeated David Bielkheden; win bonus was $30,000)

-Josh Koscheck: $20,000 (defeated Dustin Hazelett; win bonus was $10,000)

-Luigi Fioravanti: $16,000 (defeated Luke mo; win bonus was $8,000)

-Luke mo: $16,000 (lost to Luigi Fioravanti; win bonus would have been $16,000)

-Jorge Gurgel: $14,000 (defeated John Halverson; win bonus was $7,000)

-Dustin Hazelett: $12,000 (lost to Josh Koscheck; win bonus would have been $12,000)

-Jake O’Brien: $11,000 (lost to Andrei Arlovski; win bonus would have been $11,000)

-David Bielkheden: $8,000 (lost to Diego Sanchez; win bonus would have been $8,000)

-John Halverson: $3,000 (lost to Jorge Gurgel; win bonus would have been $3,000)

[LEONARD]

How did this not f Dan up bigtime??

[Evan]

I guess it was just the ball of the heel and the bridge of the foot never touched his throat?

[tlongII]

Although I didn't see the fight, my understanding is that Silva caught Hendo with a knee in the 2nd round and that was Hendo's downfall. If true I had the fight pretty much called.


I haven't seen anybody defend well against Silva's Muary Thai clinches yet.

[Evan]

When that happened I was thinking about this thread....lol...

[LEONARD]

Although I didn't see the fight, my understanding is that Silva caught Hendo with a knee in the 2nd round and that was Hendo's downfall. If true I had the fight pretty much called.

I haven't seen anybody defend well against Silva's Muary Thai clinches yet.

LOL...every squirrel finds a nut on occasion...but predicting that Silva's MT knees will be effective is like saying that Tim Duncan will give the refs a bug eyed look and raise his palms to the sky after every foul called on him...

It was actually an attempted kick to the body that Dan kinda ducked into that started his big problems...

Predicting a KO with a knee to the forehead is still very odd, since that's probably the best place on your head to take a big shot...

The only people that predicted that Silva would walk thru Hendo (which he didn't do IMO since Hendo won rd 1) didn't have a clue who Hendo is...

and you still haven't seen the fight? Are you sure you're an mma fan?

Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson (avi)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nncc7r