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  1. 02-26-2008 #101
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    Way to go down with the ship, whottt!
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  2. 02-26-2008 #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    So instead of starting the 2nd best 2 guard Pop goes with the 3rd best? That's redneck dumb.

    Actually...it's a well known fact that Pop likes guys that can bring energy and offense(not just scoring)off the bench...which is why he puts Manu there, and Barry. He has his set rotation and some guys get placeholder duty...


    You'll probably see this happen with your boy Thomas...



    Perhaps because, oh, I don't know, Finley is the better option?

    LOL perhaps Finley was sucking ass both years until Barry was out of the way...and didn't start playing better until Barry got injured...which is 100% true.
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    It's no use arguing with whottt because he either ignores evidence or twist it to mean something that it cleary doesn't, and then insists he's right and we are all stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    Actually...it's a well known fact that Pop likes guys that can bring energy off the bench...which is why he puts Manu there, and Barry. He has his set rotation and some guys get placeholder duty...
    So why is he starting the 3rd best 2 guard against opponents' starters?



    LOL perhaps Finley was sucking ass both years until Barry was out of the way...and didn't start playing better until Barry got injured...which is 100% true.
    Perhaps Finley is the better player. Anyone without an irrational love of Barry can figure that out.
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  5. 02-26-2008 #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    So why is he starting the 3rd best 2 guard against opponents' starters?

    Because it does more to help him not suck being on the court with Duncan and Manu...




    Perhaps Finley is the better player. Anyone without an irrational love of Barry can figure that out.

    Yeah...which is why we were champions in 05 and then added Finley and weren't...and the Mavs dumped him and all of a sudden were world beaters.


    Irreplacable player there...just like AJ.
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    I think David Robinson and Brent Barry are the only two people in the history of the franchise that whotttt has ever liked.
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  7. 02-26-2008 #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    I think David Robinson and Brent Barry are the only two people in the history of the franchise that whotttt has ever liked.
    False...in fact I like more Spurs players than you guys do...I just don't like the ones that are more mouth and at ude than actual game...you guys do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    Because it does more to help him not suck being on the court with Duncan and Manu...
    Manu is coming off the bench.




    Yeah...which is why we were champions in 05 and then added Finley and weren't...and the Mavs dumped him and all of a sudden were world beaters.


    Irreplacable player there...just like AJ.
    '06 was AJ's first full season as HC. That had much more to do with the Mavs' improvement than anything else.
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    And BTW...boy am I glad we signed Kidd
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    False...in fact I like more Spurs players than you guys do...I just don't like the ones that are more mouth and at ude than actual game...you guys do.
    What a ing moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    Manu is coming off the bench.
    Excuse me...I meant Parker

    I give you props for finally making an accurate statement in this thread...props.





    '06 was AJ's first full season as HC. That had much more to do with the Mavs' improvement than anything else.
    Hmmm...you think AJ didn't have anything to do with Finley becoming expendable?


    They could have used that clause on other players...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    in fact I have an irrational crush on more Spurs players than you guys do.
    Fixed for accuracy.
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    Nice to ignore facts and go to the AJ card when in doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    What a ing moron.
    You spend much more time ripping Spurs players than I do...and talking about trading them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt


    Hmmm...you think AJ didn't have anything to do with Finley becoming expendable?


    They could have used that clause on other players...
    Like who? Finley's contract offered the best possible lux tax savings. Finley isn't worth $35 mil a season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    Like who? Finley's contract offered the best possible lux tax savings.
    Best possible lux tax savings...but if he'd been an essential player he wouldn't have been the one they let go.

    He was the one they let go...and he wasn't an essential player...after all, they beat us(with him on our team), and made their first finals.


    Finley isn't worth $35 mil a season.
    At last...common ground.


    Unfortunately...we both know that Cuban isn't a tax first win second owner...


    IF Finley was all you guys thought he was...he wouldn't have been the one they let go..it's not like letting him go saved them from getting hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    Best possible lux tax savings...but if he'd been an essential player he wouldn't have been the one they let go.
    Well he wasn't a franchise player at that point.


    He was the one they let go...and he wasn't an essential player...after all, they beat us(with him on our team), and made their first finals.
    Yeah, he wasn't worth $35 mil a season. Some revelation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    Nice to ignore facts and go to the AJ card when in doubt.

    What AJ card?


    ...AJ and me actually agree on Finley. I'd have wanted Stackhouse over him too...at least you know Stack will choke...Finley makes you think he won't. That's worse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    What AJ card?


    ...AJ and me actually agree on Finley. I'd have wanted Stackhouse over him too...at least you know Stack will choke...Finley makes you think he won't. That's worse...
    Yeah, that's the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
    Yeah, that's the reason.

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    Doesn't matter...Cuban took on that payroll before he knew he'd be able to get out of it. He was willing to pay it...


    Finley didn't like a reduced role and was complaining about it.
    Finley's game had deteriorated.
    They viewed Finley as being the heart and soul of the soft Mavs.


    That's why he was the one that was let go...

    Don't confuse Cuban with Holt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    Doesn't matter...Cuban took on that payroll before he knew he'd be able to get out of it. He was willing to pay it...


    Finley didn't like a reduced role and was complaining about it.
    Finley's game had deteriorated.
    They viewed Finley as being the heart and soul of the soft Mavs.


    That's why he was the one that was let go...

    Don't confuse Cuban with Holt...

    $50 mil is real money, even to Mark Cuban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat
    $50 mil is real money, even to Mark Cuban.

    No it's really not...Cuban really wanted to win more....the tax hits he was going to start getting didn't start to bother him until he kept getting the same result in the post season....again and again and again.


    But it wasn't his first concern...that's why his payroll got so huge in the first place.


    Common sense really...
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    So Finley wasn't worth $35 mil a year. BFD.

    We'll find out how much Barry is worth to the Mavs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holt's Cat

    We'll find out how much Barry is worth to the Mavs.

    What does Barry have to do with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whottt
    Doesn't matter...Your silly facts and logic won't derail me from my beliefs...
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