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    And who guards Dirk?
    Bowen or Udoka, or Horry.

    Who guards Howard?
    Udoka or Bowen

    Who guards Kidd?
    Udoka, Bowen, or Ginobili

    Who guards Terry?

    Tony parker.

    Thin short shooting guards.

    His specialty

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    No one has to...that's the beauty of it. That wasn't true with Harris.
    Right, because Kidd's job is to score.

    I hate to tell you this but Kidd is like a sub 40% shooter for his career...or close to it.
    Gee, I would've never known that considering he played for us before, or that hasn't been do ented ad nauseum.

    Between that and his TO's...and the fact that you again have to become a passing ball movement oriented team(which is the teeth of the Spurs D)...you guys did just become the Suns again...only without a PG that can hang with Parker offensively like Nash can.
    We still have Josh, Jet and Dirk, three guys who can create their own shot and iso whenever they need to. When it comes to the Spurs, we lost our 4th and 7th most important players. That's a risk this team was willing and needed to make. We have our needs, you have yours.

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    Bowen or Udoka, or Horry.
    So when it comes to Dirk, in other words, nobody really.

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    I don't like Duncan guarding the best big man on any opposing team (foul trouble and energy waster).

    K. Thomas is not mobile enough to guard Dirk on the perimeter.

    I think I'd try Oberto out on Nowitski in short spurts, but I like how Bowen guards him, to be honest.

    Bowen gets in Dirk's face like an annoying pest.

    Udoka deserves a shot at guarding Dirk, too. He has decent size and speed for the task and can make Dirk work a little on the other end.

    Perhaps Bowen and Udoka with a dash of Oberto.

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    Right, because Kidd's job is to score.



    Gee, I would've never known that considering he played for us before, or that hasn't been do ented ad nauseum.

    Obviously you didn't...or you wouldn't have been asking who was going to guard him...


    You should have been asking how he's going to be passing the ball to defended men...and asking how he's going to score when he can't score


    We still have Josh, Jet and Dirk, three guys who can create their own shot and iso whenever they need to. When it comes to the Spurs, we lost our 4th and 7th most important players. That's a risk this team was willing and needed to make. We have our needs, you have yours.

    Uh uh...when it comes to the NBA you lost your 4th and 7th most important players...when it comes to the Spurs you lost your 1st and 2nd most important players...not to mention are now starting your 16th worst...

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    So who is this week's paper champion?

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    So who is this week's paper champion?
    Devin Harris and DeSagana Diop.

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    So when it comes to Dirk, in other words, nobody really.

    Yeah Bowen and Udoka are horrible defenders

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    Devin Harris and DeSagana Diop.
    Those guys are pretty good.

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    Uh uh...when it comes to the NBA you lost your 4th and 7th most important players...when it comes to the Spurs you lost your 1st and 2nd most important players....
    I'm speechless. Devin and Diop are more important when it comes to beating San Antonio than Dirk and Josh.



    So New Jersey is going to whip you guys like a drum the next time you play them, right?

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    My question is who is going to guard Dampier? Expect to get abused on the boards. Something the Suns don't do.

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    My question is who is going to guard Dampier? Expect to get abused on the boards. Something the Suns don't do.
    You haven't seen the Suns lately.

    And @ Dampier.

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    Yeah Bowen and Udoka are horrible defenders
    I didn't watch the December game when Duncan was out, so I don't know how Udoka did matched up on Dirk, but yeah, Bowen certainly is subpar when matched up on Dirk. He couldn't do a damn thing against him in the playoff series two years ago. And it's almost better to put Bowen on Josh, since he's a lot more capable of getting under Josh's skin and mentally taking him out of his game.

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    You haven't seen the Suns lately.
    I was talking about the difference between the Mavs now and the Suns of last year. The Mavs are a great rebounding team unlike the Suns that the Spurs beat.

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    My question is who is going to guard Dampier? Expect to get abused on the boards. Something the Suns don't do.
    Duncan and Thomas. I'll take that. No mismatch there.

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    I was talking about the difference between the Mavs now and the Suns of last year. The Mavs are a great rebounding team unlike the Suns that the Spurs beat.
    That's one reason we got Thomas and Udoka. The Spurs are better at boarding now too.

    Were you serious about guarding Dampier?

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    I didn't watch the December game when Duncan was out, so I don't know how Udoka did matched up on Dirk, but yeah, Bowen certainly is subpar when matched up on Dirk. He couldn't do a damn thing against him in the playoff series two years ago. And it's almost better to put Bowen on Josh, since he's a lot more capable of getting under Josh's skin and mentally taking him out of his game.
    I wouldn't say Bowen is subpar against Dirk. He forces Dirk into some tough shots, Dirk just makes them. And you're right about Howard.

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    I'm speechless. Devin and Diop are more important when it comes to beating San Antonio than Dirk and Josh.
    Hmmm...Devin and Diop are definitely more important than Josh...

    Dirk didn't become important against us until you guys got Devin Harris ironically enough...because then we had to guard all your guys one on one.

    Harris was the #1 key to consistently beating us...He's the only guy in the NBA that can defend Parker...and he could score on Parker too...

    You traded him for perhaps the worst scoring star PG in the NBA...and the worst Parker defender...

    How you think that is going to wind up a plus against us is beyond me...

    On top of that...our D is built around disrupting our opponents passing offense, and you guys just became a passing oriented team...only with a guy who turns it over more than perhaps any PG in history.


    In summary...Kidd needs to pull down about 30 rebounds per game for you to come out of this trade ahead, against us.




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    So New Jersey is going to whip you guys like a drum the next time you play them, right?[/QUOTE]


    I don't know...I'll bet they no longer have status against us...

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    Duncan and Thomas. I'll take that. No mismatch there.
    One of those will have to go out and guard Dirk which allows Howard and Kidd to get some opportunities for offensive rebounds. I still expect Dallas to dominate the boards like they always do.

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    I'm speechless. Devin and Diop are more important when it comes to beating San Antonio than Dirk and Josh.



    So New Jersey is going to whip you guys like a drum the next time you play them, right?

    Collectively the mavs were a better team defensively. I still think they gave up to much to get Kidd just with those two guys alone. They should've rode it out until Harris got back and they'd been able to turn a corner.

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    So New Jersey is going to whip you guys like a drum the next time you play them, right?
    Frank is not a good coach. I don't expect him to use those players properly.

    They should hire Larry Brown if they can.

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    Those guys are pretty good.
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    One of those will have to go out and guard Dirk which allows Howard and Kidd to get some opportunities for offensive rebounds. I still expect Dallas to dominate the boards like they always do.
    You won't see that combination against the Mavs. It will be either or. Oops! And they won't dominate either, unless the Spurs just don't put forth any effort on the boards. The Spurs are a good rebounding team, it's not like we are the Suns.

    Edit: You might see the combination if Pop wants to try Thomas on Dirk, but I don't think that would last long. Even so, Duncan will still be in the paint,

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    Frank is not a good coach. I don't expect him to use those players properly.

    They should hire Larry Brown if they can.

    Ironically enough...Kidd had a good coach and ran him out of town for a yesman...Kidd doesn't seem to get along well with disciplinarian type coaches....and seems to prefer yes men even if it costs him finals appearances and makes his team suck so bad he forces a trade....after he demands a trade to get the yesman in there in the first place



    Goodbye Mavs...it was fun while it lasted


    I mean that sincerely... Goodbye

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    I personally wouldn't mind Kidd running Avery out of town.

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