Manu couldn't sleep and wrote an article (need translation)

[whottt]

true otherwise Josh Howard would be a Spur right now

False as Josh Howard isn't a Spur because the Spurs were trying to sign Jason Kidd. Who just so happened to be a guy Duncan wanted on the team as well.

you sounded way more confident than this on your previous posts. This tone at least makes you look better that it is YOUR take and NOTHING close to reality.

Eh...I was probably antagonizing someone. I don't really think Manu dislikes Scola...that part is a joke.


But I absolutely think with no doubt, that if they asked Manu who he'd rather play with, Scola or Oberto...IMO, he'd say Oberto.


I like Oberto better...and since we've won a le since he became the starting C, I fail to see why I am wrong about that.

Too bad the Spurs didn't sign him in 03 like I wanted.


Oberto was the team captain of Team Argentina...even among a selfless team, he stood apart for his selflessness...and he's done nothing as a Spur to make me reconsider that opinion on him...one I formed 6 years ago..watching he and Scola play alongside each other.


But go ahead... on Oberto all you want...I guess he doesn't score enough points for you.

[vanvannen]

Ehh...that was probably a joke or sarcasm to piss the Argie homers off.



For the record...

The night Scola was drafted by the Spurs, he said, it would have been better if he hadn't been drafted at all.


He said this because of the buyout clause he had with Tau...which made his buyout much more difficult if he wasn't drafted until the second round.


And he made similar derisive, negative or inflammatory comments either via his agent, or speaking directly in interviews, like the one during the 04 Olympics on American TV, for the rest of his time as a Spur.






I don't care why he said it...he was whining, and it was extremely offensive and rude, not to mention self centered, and from that moment, I have never liked Scola. He will likely never win an NBA championship and I celebrate that fact...because his own mouth ed him over.



What Scola said that night, was like winning the 1 million dollar lottery and whining because you didn't win the 20 million dollar lottery...


What a little .


Scola.


I'm glad he's not a Spur...

I have to disagree on this one. Maybe Scola was not smart to say it out loud (was he 20 at the time?) but he definetely got ed being drafted, as it proved later staying in Spain for several more years.

[urunobili]

But go ahead... on Oberto all you want...I guess he doesn't score enough points for you.

WAAAYYY off... we love Oberto... we are just questioning your "joke" that Manu doesn't like Scola and your "assumption" that he would have chosen Oberto instead of Luifa...

[hater]

But I absolutely think with no doubt, that if they asked Manu who he'd rather play with, Scola or Oberto...IMO, he'd say Oberto.

I can see manu saying that..... after smoking a gram of crack

Everyone knows Scola is >>>> Oberto, this has been a fact for years and years. Even if Oberto is a nicer guy, Manu did not come here to make friends, remember? he would pick Scola in a heartbeat

[urunobili]

I can see manu saying that..... after smoking a gram of crack

Everyone knows Scola is >>>> Oberto, this has been a fact for years and years. Even if Oberto is a nicer guy, Manu did not come here to make friends, remember? he would pick Scola in a heartbeat

in addition to this... even Oberto admits Luis is better than he'll ever be... suck it whottt.. that's it...

[hater]

it's like picking Brendan Haywood over David West

whott: "but...but... Brendan gets more rebounds per 48 mins"

[urunobili]

[Los Spurs]

It's amazing how this thread is on it's 5th page and it all started because Manu couldn't sleep

[Brutalis]

As a long time fan I can only imagine what others felt after reading this.

Firstly, aren't we so lucky? Manu is a true country boy and he doesn't even know it hahaha. I love his heart and how he lives the game of basketball. We have some guys that truly play the game for the fans and the will to succeed and do it in a special way unique to typical NBAers today.

In some way this has given me more confidence in the Spurs. We have won championships because we are smart and control clock, passing lanes, cuts to the basket and simple fundamentals. Not because we had the best player or we had anything specific worth a lot. Just a will to win the damn game and I know we can do it come playoff time. Home or away.

[diego]

for the record, i like whottt, i think he generally has good takes and is usually funny too. i even understand that, with the way some people hype up scola, he feels the need to pee on their parade. ( , even some of us argies get pissed at those people).

but he's talked so much about scola that he's gone to the other extreme and painted himself into a corner. he made scola sound so bad that scola doesnt have to do much to prove him wrong.

the other day when argspursfan made that 2nd round bet, whottt should have taken it without qualifications. at least then he would have stood behind his arguments, and gotten rid of that headache for the rest of us. now, he's becoming the doppler of argspursfan, speculating off interviews and stats to make an unmakeable point.

that scola isnt a superstar/all star/greatest pf in history is not news.
that he is a bargain, contract vs production, and better than a 2nd round pick, is really not debateable IMO.

[Brutalis]

for the record, i like whottt, i think he generally has good takes and is usually funny too. i even understand that, with the way some people hype up scola, he feels the need to pee on their parade. ( , even some of us argies get pissed at those people).

but he's talked so much about scola that he's gone to the other extreme and painted himself into a corner. he made scola sound so bad that scola doesnt have to do much to prove him wrong.

the other day when argspursfan made that 2nd round bet, whottt should have taken it without qualifications. at least then he would have stood behind his arguments, and gotten rid of that headache for the rest of us. now, he's becoming the doppler of argspursfan, speculating off interviews and stats to make an unmakeable point.

that scola isnt a superstar/all star/greatest pf in history is not news.
that he is a bargain, contract vs production, and better than a 2nd round pick, is really not debateable IMO.

Spurs ed up. We let Scola go because we're too cheap or didn't believe he was worth it. It's in the past. Fans are going to drill this issue till the NBA folds in 2045 during the Spurs 21-peat. By then every other team had given up.

Yes, it sucks. I hate it with passion. Scola is the and we got burned. Just let the ones who don't wanna let it go, go.

[LocosPorJuana]

manu is the best! one day he will replace god(armando maradona)as the face for argentine sports.

[whottt]

I have to disagree on this one. Maybe Scola was not smart to say it out loud (was he 20 at the time?) but he definetely got ed being drafted, as it proved later staying in Spain for several more years.

His fault...he shouldn't have signed a stupid buyout clause. And if he did...he should of dealt with the consequences of doing so.


The world doesn't revolve around ing Scola...if he's in the NBA draft and available...a team has a rigth to draft him. Regardless of whether or not it the best situation for him personally.


And if he wants to make dumbass comments...well, he's free to do so. And people are free to judge him by them.




And that's something else...


I hate to break it to you Argentina...but it's entirely possible Scola never wanted to be a Spur anyway, and he forced the Spurs to trade his rights.


I know you Argies are going to blindly defend your countryman...but there's a reason he's not here...and it's not because the Spurs are stupid.

Either they didn't want him, or he didn't want them...but the bad blood between them was evident long before this past offseason...and every time I mentioned it, I got piled on by Argentina...


Welll, he's not here is he? So obviously, something wasn't right between them.


If you think the Spurs are stupid? Go root for the ing Rockets.....


Don't root for a team you don't support. s.

[whottt]

WAAAYYY off... we love Oberto... we are just questioning your "joke" that Manu doesn't like Scola and your "assumption" that he would have chosen Oberto instead of Luifa...

Why do you think Manu would choose Scola would over Oberto?


Why?

You have some kind of proof he likes Scola better than Oberto?


Because Scola scores more PPG?


Because Scola named his son Tiago?




Because he said nice things about Scola in the article at the beginning of this thread?


Because he says nice things about Scola he obviously likes Scola better than Oberto?


I don't get it...


I don't see any logic to what you are saying.


Just because he says something nice about Scola doesn't mean he doesn't like Oberto...it doesn't mean what I say couldn't be true.



I mean let's say Manu absolutely hates Scola...he still has to play with him on the National Team...he still is a co-representative of Argentine basketball...

Does Manu seem like the type to go around making negative comments to you? Even if he has cause to do so?


No he doesn't...which immediately separates him from Scola, see draft night 2002...and which is why the closest Scola is ever going to get to the HOF is watching Manu go in.

[whottt]

Next thing you guys will be telling me is that Manu wants the Rockets to win the NBA championship this year...just like most of you do. I mean after all...he said nice things about Scola.

[TMTTRIO]

Well Scola said that he was roommates with Manu for a long time with the NT so who knows what went on

[whottt]

Next thing you guys will be telling me is that Manu wants the Rockets to win the NBA championship this year...just like most of you do. I mean after all...he said nice things about Scola.

Excellent point whottt


The simple fact of the matter is, if the Spurs are eliminated, the second the Spurs are out of the playoffs half the guys you are arguing with will immediately jump ship to the Rockets.

THey aren't Spurfans...they're Argie fans, and the Spurs just happen to have some Argies.


Me? I'd root for Satan to win the championship before the Rockets. Whether Scola was there or not...I don't care how many Americans are on the team.

[Brutalis]

Well Scola said that he was roommates with Manu for a long time with the NT so who knows what went on

Not all big strong long haired guys are gay dude. Just cause whot is don't make them the same.

[InK]

Me? I'd root for Satan to win the championship before the Rockets.

Here is what defines a Spurs fan, boys and girls. Rather Satan's warm embrace then the di able act of rooting for your countrymen. And whottt leads by example, for he "does not care how many americans are on the team", and nor should you! What an analogy. We are in a presence of a great mind indeed.

[WalterBenitez]

As a long time fan I can only imagine what others felt after reading this.

Firstly, aren't we so lucky? Manu is a true country boy and he doesn't even know it hahaha. I love his heart and how he lives the game of basketball. We have some guys that truly play the game for the fans and the will to succeed and do it in a special way unique to typical NBAers today.

In some way this has given me more confidence in the Spurs. We have won championships because we are smart and control clock, passing lanes, cuts to the basket and simple fundamentals. Not because we had the best player or we had anything specific worth a lot. Just a will to win the damn game and I know we can do it come playoff time. Home or away.

Oh man, this post is gold, pure sense for me!

[diego]

The simple fact of the matter is, if the Spurs are eliminated, the second the Spurs are out of the playoffs half the guys you are arguing with will immediately jump ship to the Rockets.

yes i agree. but why piss off the half that will stay?

are you telling me there are no american bandwagoners, trolls, and dumbasses?

anyways, carry on if you must.

[WalterBenitez]

for the record, i like whottt, i think he generally has good takes and is usually funny too. i even understand that, with the way some people hype up scola, he feels the need to pee on their parade. ( , even some of us argies get pissed at those people).

but he's talked so much about scola that he's gone to the other extreme and painted himself into a corner. he made scola sound so bad that scola doesnt have to do much to prove him wrong.

the other day when argspursfan made that 2nd round bet, whottt should have taken it without qualifications. at least then he would have stood behind his arguments, and gotten rid of that headache for the rest of us. now, he's becoming the doppler of argspursfan, speculating off interviews and stats to make an unmakeable point.

that scola isnt a superstar/all star/greatest pf in history is not news.
that he is a bargain, contract vs production, and better than a 2nd round pick, is really not debateable IMO.

I do liked your post!!!... nothing particular against whottt, but he loves to ... just because ... even that in some point he loves to be in the prosecutor corner qulifying that you aren't a spur fan because he is a pure fan ...

In the other hand, many of his argument are solid!

[vanvannen]

Excellent point whottt


The simple fact of the matter is, if the Spurs are eliminated, the second the Spurs are out of the playoffs half the guys you are arguing with will immediately jump ship to the Rockets.

THey aren't Spurfans...they're Argie fans, and the Spurs just happen to have some Argies.


Me? I'd root for Satan to win the championship before the Rockets. Whether Scola was there or not...I don't care how many Americans are on the team.

He does have a point. There's going to be a lot less Argies here when Manu is done or traded.

[ducks]

maybe manu should rember when he attacked the rim got the other team in foul trouble spurs were winning because they could not play duncan and parker as tight because they did not want to foul out

[timvp]

By all accounts, Ginobili is turning into the emotional leader of this team, which is great. Duncan has become a good on court leader but the Spurs have needed someone who has fire behind closed doors.

I like the leadership mix on this team. On a team, you need a variety of different personalities. Duncan is the person looked to when on the court. Manu is the fire behind the scenes. Parker is too young to have much of a leadership role but he is important in the mix because he's the extension of Pop on the court. Whatever Pop tells him to do, he'll do it.

But then even a player like Horry who probably doesn't care at all if the Spurs win or lose a regular season game, he's still important to the mix. Since he keeps an even temperament the entire time, he's a good calming influence when the times get tough. And then there's Finley, who is a guy who takes the regular season too seriously. He's probably somewhere right now holding back tears.

Overall it's a good mix. There aren't any conflicts in the leadership department, which is the easiest way to destroy chemistry.