you're on a roll. could you please give us the entire verbal autopsy of present day conservatism?
This resolution has already been pointed out.
The left will say "they only did it because of the bad publicity was going to hurt their bottom line"
That is probably fairly close to the truth, but I would be willing to bet that senior management probably didn't know about this until the publicity, and are decent enough people to have realized that not only was this bad for the bottom line, it was simply wrong.
And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
And they replied unto him, "Wherefore hast thou done this, O Lord? Canst thou not see how verily we provide a useful service unto these worshippers?
"Yea, for it is arduous to bring an unblemished beast so long a way. We allow the people instead to bring money and purchase their animals for sacrifice here!
"And, verily, knowest thou not that to disrupt our changing of money and selling of doves and beasts would bring woe upon the Judaean economy? Wishest thou, Lord, that Judaeans lose their jobs?"
And Jesus said, "I suppose you have a point." And he helped them to right their tables anew.
All hail the Messiah.
I am not a big beleiver in Revalations, but when people look to the UN for the anti-christ, I think they are looking in the wrong place, and should start with jack-offs like this. They make my flesh crawl.
All hail the Messiah.
Hey, it's good work. If you can find it.
And Jesus said to his disciples, "Don't forget to max out your 401(k)s."
Behold, unto us a DVD was born. Yours for $29.95+S&H.
Sad story, I don't see what Wal-Mart has to gain from this except a measly 400 grand. From an ethical/moral(at least mine) perspective this is completely wrong and from a business standpoint this is stupid.
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LMAO
Behold, unto us a DVD was born. Yours for $29.95+S&H.
And while he was at Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he was reclining at table, a woman came with an alabaster flask of ointment of pure nard, very costly, and she broke the flask and poured it over his head. There were some who said to themselves indignantly, "Why was the ointment wasted like that? For this ointment could have been sold for more than three hundred denarii and given to the poor." And they scolded her. But Jesus said, "Leave her alone. Why do you trouble her? She has done a beautiful thing. By dumping out this ointment, she props up the price. Now all the other rich people's flasks of nard are more valuable. For you always have the poor with you, and they will always be lazy and unproductive. But you will not always have appreciating asset values."
What's with all the references to Jesus?
These are key Bible passages which explain why most conservative Christians pledge allegiance to big business.
Yes. Quite a few of us conservative evangelicals in the academy are having this debate right now. This is not to say, of course, that we ought to retreat on our convictions about marriage, abortion, etc. But if political activism is the extent of our gospel, then yes, something is seriously wrong.
You'd be happy to know, then, that the Southern Baptist Convention, which runs two mission boards and Samaritan's Purse, does quite alot of work in helping abused children, ministering to the poor and handicapped, and feeding people. Many of my colleagues in the schoolhouse, professors and students alike, have either backgrounds, or will go into, these fields. And, I am proud to report, it was Operation NOAH (another Baptist en y) that gutted my house after the storm -- removing all my walls and furniture, taking away my fence, and cutting down my trees. And our church in Metairie is constantly hosting groups from Baptist churches from all over the country, who come to work here in New Orleans.
Also, we uniformly have a very dim view of Hillsboro. How dare they presume to represent Christ!
Hmmm ... you may be overstating your case here. It's true that most conservative evangelicals view business somewhat more favorably than they do gummint, but I've never seen the aforementioned Bible passages exegeted in such a way as to proscribe that believers pledge allegiance to big business. Now, some Christians may indeed do so.
On the other hand, there are quite a few evangelicals who are conservative exegetically, socially, and theologically, but are actually Democrats who favor more gummint control over business. So it goes both ways.
Your Bible translates those passages wrong. I am firmly in the KSV-only camp (K Street Version).
I agree about not going back on principles and keeping perspective on things. Thanks for providing some background information.
I know that there is a lot of good done by Christian charities, and this is something that many Christian-bashers seem to miss.
My take on the whole thing can be summed up in a rather revealing look at the bible allowed by search engines.
If you search just about any version of the Bible for the word "poor", you end
up with hundreds and hundreds of hits.
Search for the words "abomination" or similar such code words for sexuality, you get somewhere around ten, usually fewer.
This pretty much spells out where the real emphasis of God's message is, even if you never actually get down to reading and thinking about individual passages.
As for the Hilsboro Baptist Chruch: God will judge them for their actions, and I have a feeling they will be in for quite the shock, and feel sorry for them having really lost their way.
I agree that ministering to the poor is more central to the Christian life than disapproving of sexuality is.
However, ministering to the poor is not the "real emphasis of God's message." If it were, we could just do away with all the trappings of religion and go feed the hungry. A lot of secular liberals dream of the day that would come to pass.
Upon re-reading your passages, I discovered that, yes, you are using readings from the Inspired KSV. I need to read every word closely, I guess. My question: would the Jesus Seminar and Bart Ehrman regard these sayings as authentic?
Second, when I saw "KSV-only", I thought it said "KJV-only." And from a fellow I thought knew better.
There was a fake news report and blog going around about how the eminently reputable Southwestern Seminary in Ft. Worth, led by a well-known professor of church history, was establishing the Center for Landmarkist Research. One of my colleagues nearly had a heart attack, until he remembered it was April Fools' Day.
i don't know what it is, (steriods, HGH maybe) but Extra Stout is an absolute riot today.
For these sayings, you have to use the special red, white, and blue beads with the little elephant on them.
Yes. That's the big area of study right now in the schoolhouse ... how can conservatives minister to people and meet their needs (feeding, clothing, etc.) without abandoning Christian convictions. Liberal churches long ago abandoned evangelism and the gospel (repentence, faith in Christ, a changed life) in favor of what one might call a "social gospel," almost exclusively geared toward ministering to the poor, going good deeds, etc. 20th century fundys, and to a certain extent, evangelicals, went the other way, emphasizing Bible teaching and preaching about Christ as to neglect social ministries.
I would submit that evangelicals do both -- both areas would be much more powerful and effective. Christian convictions feeding social ministries, both being emphasized, neither one neglected.
A 20-oz of coffee usually does it for me.
Does the KSV illuminate Jesus Christ's vision for privatized healthcare? For example, what was the co-pay that the blind man had to pay for the mud-o-saliva vision restoration? And was the resurrection of Lazerus meant to emphasis the importance of term life insurance?
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