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I think the point of contention is the implied "if" in your statement. By stating that she's nothing more than a victim if there was no altercation, you're suggesting that she wasn't a victim is there was an altercation.
Though, I must admit, since there is obviously so much confusion on all the details, I'm highly amused by the amount of righteous indignation on both sides of this argument.
And you cannot lie.
Good point. She is still a victim but if there was an altercation. Again "if". Big "if". Then she would still be alive had she stayed out of it. I don't see how you prove that wrong. She avoids confrontation she lives. Oven is hot, touch it get burned. Don't touch it don't get burned.
If there was no altercation then she was a victim of chance and had no wrong or right choice to make. It was out of her hands. Its not as if she could have avoided hitting the meteor had she turned left especially if she had no idea it was headed right for her, but don't tell me any differently if you chose to involve yourself in a meteor shower. She took a risk whether it seemed like one or not.
Or none of it happened and we are talking about an entirely different scenario.
Winna, winna, chicken dinna. Thanks for the succinct 2 line summation, Funt.
I agree and expounded on that.Winna, winna, chicken dinna. Thanks for the succinct 2 line summation, Funt.
B2B talking about using common sense and protecting your familly when not that long ago he created a thread to say he'd ed with some dude's insulin, which very well could have killed/hurt the guy and put him (B2B) in jail for a long as time.
So much for the common sense ans being able to protect your familly.
Yea...
I'm done reading his bull . It's stupid anyways. It doesn't make a bit of sense.
I don't know why Back to Basics always tries to play this role, but it's truly annoying when it's a thread about a serious matter. Even if there was an altercation, she doesn't deserve to die and she'd still be a victim (the guy didn't shoot her in self defense.) Just back up a little bit when you are talking about human life. You are so condescending to think that you would never be so dumb as for something like this to happen. 1) None of us even know what happened 2) I can't imagine that you could avoid a confrontation, particularly if the other party starts it.
Yeah that thread was 100% serious and in no way was I joking around to entertain others and myself. Good thing you understand the difference between joke and serious I mean who would have thought I was kidding around about insulin. I was obviously 100% serious to the ing bone.
Yeah the guy died because of it too. I killed him and guess what my boss didn't care and I still have my job. Cops didn't care either because they know I just meant to play a practical joke on the poor old diabetic fella. There aren't enough roll eyes emoticons to go around.
Sure.
No but you can stop yourself from getting involved. I'm not stating that it could never happen and if someone attacted her there is obviously nothing she could have done.
I was in a serious conversation and must have been mistaken when message boarding wasn't about
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They turned it into an arguement by misinterpreting what I was trying to say. I was just pointing out that you shouldn't involve yourself in other people problems good natured or not. Whether thats what happened or not we'll never know.
For the millionth ing time. I think she is a victim no matter what. I feel for her and her family its unfortunate those who suffer for simply trying to help if thats even what happened.
So you shouldn't get involved because it presents some type of danger?
Well, if that's the case, just quit driving.
No quit driving dangerously, don't join the drag race or instigating road rager. You can't control another driver taking you out just like you can't control some random crazy killing you. There is a difference in almost everything this world has to offer and there are many ways to look at things. Bad analogy.
I agree with what he is saying. There was a time when I first moved here to San Antonio when I witnessed a dude punch his chick in the mouth outside of a McDonalds and I didn't call the cops about it and refused to get involved because I thought about what could happen to me for doing so. I get what B2B is trying to say but in no way is saying the lady deserved to die for getting involved. It just sucks that good people, trying to help end up being a victim. I feel terribly for the family of the doctor and for her. In a perfect world she would survive and the shooter would die a horrible and painful death, but this isn't a perfect world and it sucks that she had to die.
Thank you for thinking like a rational person.
Now can I get free life coaching?
Im not saying the lady deserved to die, but if what was originally reported is true it should serve as a good lesson for people in general to mind their own business.
That being said this is pretty farked up and sad.
yeah. Anytime you need a rational well thought out sugarfree opinion hit me the up buddy.
I disagree. If I see a child or someone vulnerable in jeopardy, I'm going to try to help.
I understand your point of view. When I lived in L.A., a friend of mine was leaving a bar and saw a guy punch a girl in the parking lot. My friend went to assist (didn't really confront the guy but was trying to make sure the female was okay) and then end result was my friend getting stabbed in the throat. It was pretty serious but he didn't die.
But, you can control gettting on the road, and if protecting your familly is the #1 obligation then why put them at risk?
You are still putting yourself into a situation that is completely unpredictable and dangerous.
Unless she knew the guy was crazy enough to pull a gun/irrational she did the right thing IMO.
I totally agree with you to a certain extent. If I saw a child being assulted I would likely jump in and I would understand the risk involved. I'm not saying some tiny women isn't as vulnerable but I have to draw the line somewhere with the value of my life and the reprocussion of interfering. I've been in a few situations that nearly cost me my life or hurt me seriously and it makes you think about what if scenarios and how freely you should be tossing your heroic side around when you've brushed death before.
ok you're en led to your opinion but in my eyes the point that she is in fact dead tells me without a doubt she didn't do the right thing or she'd be alive. Right thought process wrong action.
These days you have to assume everyone is capable of the worst. At least I do, I've seen too much crazy to think differently. Anyone is capable of anything, guard your life because its your last.
But who the are you to judge what is right and what isn't?
What if this happened:
Guy shoots wife.
wife dies
guys goes to jail for life
their kids never see them again/go into foster home. grow up without stable familly.
or, after killing wife, guy escapes scene/kills more people.
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