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  1. #101
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Whatever. Nobody's pretending but you. And trust me, nobody is scrutinizing the Spurs extra, because well, nobody can stand watching them to begin with. Look what Dime Magazine wrote just this week. I suggest you read the whole article.
    http://dimemag.com/2008/01/29/the-homers/
    Wow! You found an article that says Tommy Heinsohn NOT being a homer as some evidence that the Spurs whine?

    Since you put so much stock in online blogs, read this.
    http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/joh...sheed-wallace/
    They put Sheed in the same group as Duncan and Ginobili! I suggest you read this as well.

  2. #102
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    ^ Realistic spurs fan, coming through in a very realistic way. Way to be honest.
    Whoever agrees with you is realistic, whoever doesn't see the world through your eyes are blind homers.
    BTW, Amusedaysleeper, do you mind telling Mr. ultimate decider of truth how many times you said the Spurs weren't going to win it all last year? You were just being realistic, weren't you?

  3. #103
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Bruce Bowen.......his dirty play could hurt somebody.....

    DD
    Mutombo .... his clumsy play did hurt someboyd ....

  4. #104
    Realistic Spurs Fan Amuseddaysleeper's Avatar
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    There were several instances where I felt the Spurs weren't gonna win it last year. The team never quite gelled together, and had we not gotten an xmas gift with GS knocking off Dallas who knows what would've happened? (not that I'm complaining)


    Having said that, I couldn't be happier to be proven wrong last year.

    This year should be a another battle, but I know last year we had more Spurs fans doubting SA more than ever, and with good reason.




    oh, and Mr. Chug, why do you hate agreeing with me?

  5. #105
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    You might not agree with what he did, but I'm talking about the on court aspect of his career. The dude was a badass, one of the best post defenders ever.
    Alonzo's hatable on court accomplishments:

    Embarrassed the whole USA during the world championship as part of Dream Team II, flexing muscles, screaming, staring down, etc .... after every single play.

    Signed with the Heat because he couldn't stand being 2nd banana to Larry Johnson.

    Refused to report to Toronto after the Vince Carter trade, forcing a $10 M buyout.

    Went to the Nets to play with Kidd, then forced the Nets to trade him when the team started sucking.

  6. #106
    Appoggiatura ancestron's Avatar
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    I hate Brad Miller, Matt Harpring, Scott Pollard, Jeff Foster, Gordan Girisuck, Eduardo Najera, pretty much any white dude who can't play that just beats people up.

  7. #107
    Believe.
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    1.Ron Artest because of the brawl a couple years back. He's a thug and a . Then after the brawl at a game i think it was this year he looked at the palace crowd and stuck his tongue out like a little like "hey look at me im a little immature that threw a little fit and beat the out of a fan when he wasnt even the one that threw the water bottle"

    2.Anderson Vaginajao-litte get that needs a haircut. I can't stand his flopping he looks like a damn ballarina out there.

    3.LeBron-Overrated. If I was the only person on my team i could make 50 points a game too. And with all of the bull calls he gets, that would make me that much better.

    4.Bruce Bowen-He's one of the dirtiest players in the game.

  8. #108
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    3.LeBron-Overrated. If I was the only person on my team i could make 50 points a game too. And with all of the bull calls he gets, that would make me that much better.
    lol, jealous

  9. #109
    Believe. miss paxton's Avatar
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    I don't like saying I hate anyone, but there are definitely players about whom I hate certain things:

    Shaq: I hate his reputation for being a wit when I don't think he's funny at all. I think if the media didn't worship the pearls of hilarity that fall from his lips I might like him better. So maybe I just hate the media.

    Bonzi Wells: Probably the one active player who I almost can't find a reason not to hate. He just gets under my skin. . . and it doesn't help that he's now on the Hornets. I wish he were on a non-playoff team, because he is always a problem for the Spurs.

    Jason Terry: I'll take you Mavs fans at your word that he's a decent guy off the court. On the court I reserve the right to dislike his at ude.

    Karl Malone: The elbows. The knees.

    Those are really the only guys I have visceral reactions to. I think the Sheed discussion upthread is kind of funny, because I've always really liked him. I can see how he's frustrating because he could be so much better than he even already is, but since he doesn't play for my team I'm free to just be entertained by him.

  10. #110
    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    In no order
    Karl Malone
    Jerry Stackhouse
    Jason Terry
    Shaq
    DeWayne Wade - learn how to spell you dumb , and your momma

    There's others but it's a minor hate. Those players up there can break a testicle and retire for all I care.

    Teams
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    LA Lakers
    Phoenix Suns

    //end

  11. #111
    Believe.
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    Bruce Bowen. Guy kicks others in the face and back. Grabs and holds. Slides foot under shooters. When other players retaliate he holds his hands up like he did not do anything. Then when he gets interviewed it is all about praising God. What a hypocrite.

    Karl Malone. Intentionally elbowing players. He too lead with his foot to kick players.

    All the ass floppers in the league. Flopping is just unmanly. Which includes Fisher, Ginobili, Harris, Varejao, Posey, Raja Bell, Horry, Divac, Stockton......

  12. #112
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    Wow, I'm surprised by the lack of Kobe hate.....interesting.

  13. #113
    I own Allanon mavs>spurs2's Avatar
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    Alonzo's hatable on court accomplishments:

    Embarrassed the whole USA during the world championship as part of Dream Team II, flexing muscles, screaming, staring down, etc .... after every single play.

    Signed with the Heat because he couldn't stand being 2nd banana to Larry Johnson.

    Refused to report to Toronto after the Vince Carter trade, forcing a $10 M buyout.

    Went to the Nets to play with Kidd, then forced the Nets to trade him when the team started sucking.
    Don't quote me and try to call me out, Alonzo Mourning was a great player. Like him or not, he is definately Hall of Fame deserving. Great shot blocker to the extent that guys are sometimes scared to drive in when he's in the paint, and very strong and able to hold good post position and keep his man away from the basket. Was a solid 20 and 10 guy for years. Besides, everything you mentioned minus the flexing and screaming was off the court anyway.

  14. #114
    Double facepalm...
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    Mutumbo was for the longest time... Such an arrogant ass..

    I have since graduated to the infinitely more arrogant MarshMelo.

    I also am perpetually pissed at Stephen Jackson and Ron Artest... Those head-cases cost Reggie his last shot at a le.

    Kobe... more disappointed than anything else with him... Before the 'Rado incident, he was the unique guy who I didn't like, didn't have to, but still respected as one of the most intelligent, thoughtful and articulate athletes. Then he just acted like an idiot, and I lost all respect for the man. Had the 'Rado thing not happened, I would have been the most Pro Kobe guy during the Shaq debacle. But alas, no crying over spilled milk.

  15. #115
    No darkness Cry Havoc's Avatar
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    Those are really the only guys I have visceral reactions to. I think the Sheed discussion upthread is kind of funny, because I've always really liked him. I can see how he's frustrating because he could be so much better than he even already is, but since he doesn't play for my team I'm free to just be entertained by him.
    I don't hate Rasheed, actually. I want to like him, but a guy with the talent to be a Tim Duncan caliber player, only to accept a role position, and then to whine about calls like he does... it bothers me. Sheed bothers me, but I admire some of the things he can do on the court. I think if I were a Pistons fan, I would hate him, because of the ability he has that he doesn't consistently use. A determined, focused, and in-control Sheed would be a monster every night on the court. I was simply pointing out the fallacy in ballijuana's logic... which obviously struck a nerve.

  16. #116
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    Don't quote me and try to call me out, Alonzo Mourning was a great player. Like him or not, he is definately Hall of Fame deserving. Great shot blocker to the extent that guys are sometimes scared to drive in when he's in the paint, and very strong and able to hold good post position and keep his man away from the basket. Was a solid 20 and 10 guy for years. Besides, everything you mentioned minus the flexing and screaming was off the court anyway.
    Don't bother trying to even comment on anything ambchang has to say. He always turns it into a debate. Always.

  17. #117
    Believe. miss paxton's Avatar
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    Wow, I'm surprised by the lack of Kobe hate.....interesting.
    I respect Kobe for being not just phenomenally gifted but an extremely hard worker. I think he sets the bar for himself very high. Do I like him? No, but then I don't know him either. I try not to think too much about whether I would like any of these guys personally, since what I see of them is so limited.

    I have a healthy respect for Kobe as an opponent. I will never not worry when he's on the floor. But that doesn't mean I hate him.

  18. #118
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    I find it funny how people list Jason Terry, and talk all this about him, when the truth is... if he wasn't a Maverick, and didn't hit Finley in the groin (which i didn't condone, but in all honesty, Finley started it by jumping on Terry well after the play was whisled dead and refused to get up off of him) no one here would give a about him. all this "wannabe thug" stuff is absolutely re ed. screaming to get the crowd involved has absolutely nothing to do with being a thug. having a very minor altercation has nothing to do with being a thug.

    But isn't Jason Terry a Dallas Maverick and didn't he hit Michael Finley in the groin?

  19. #119
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    I'm a huge fan of Rasheed Wallace.

    And, I love the fact that fans of other teams hate him.

  20. #120
    we rang stretch's Avatar
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    But isn't Jason Terry a Dallas Maverick and didn't he hit Michael Finley in the groin?
    Indeed he is and did. But obviously you missed the point of the post once again, head. I was more annoyed with people calling him a "thug" when in fact he is far from being anything like a thug. He has a family and 4 children, stays out of trouble, and always has classy interviews, and typically is classy on the court, with the exception of the altercation with Finley, but even the classiest of players will get involved in an altercation from time to time.

  21. #121
    Ball Don't Lie Rip-Hamilton32's Avatar
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    andrea bargnani because of all the hype that the news gives him over here and the fact that his bad english is very annoying lol

  22. #122
    The Greatest Show on Earth LakeShow's Avatar
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    Can't say that I hate any player today. Since Karl Malone became a Lakers, I hated no other player. Karl Malone was the only player that I despised.

  23. #123
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Indeed he is and did. But obviously you missed the point of the post once again, head. I was more annoyed with people calling him a "thug" when in fact he is far from being anything like a thug. He has a family and 4 children, stays out of trouble, and always has classy interviews, and typically is classy on the court, with the exception of the altercation with Finley, but even the classiest of players will get involved in an altercation from time to time.
    Come on. The guy was being the punk he is when Ginobili was owning him early in the year. Grabbing arms and legs. Plus, he's got as big a mouth as Stackhouse, and probably as little a mind. When he wins, is all about how they wanted to send a message, and when they lose, the game didn't matter.
    He's also another showboater just like Zo, who is riding Dirk's coattails.

    You know, Bowen also has a nice family, and a degree in public relations. Not to mention he is heavily involved in various SA's community projects. Do you hate him any less because of that?

  24. #124
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Don't quote me and try to call me out, Alonzo Mourning was a great player. Like him or not, he is definately Hall of Fame deserving. Great shot blocker to the extent that guys are sometimes scared to drive in when he's in the paint, and very strong and able to hold good post position and keep his man away from the basket. Was a solid 20 and 10 guy for years. Besides, everything you mentioned minus the flexing and screaming was off the court anyway.

    Not trying to call you out man, just interesting that you didn't know why many doesn't like Alonzo.

    BTW, who can forget that famous dragging Van Gundy around brawl he was involved in? Cost the Heat the series. Come to think of it, Mourning screwed over every pro team he was associated with, which is quite an accomplishment in itself.

    BTW, I doubt Mourning makes the HoF, his play on the court is good, and he is a force defensively, but I am not sure he is HoF level, borderline at best.

  25. #125
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Don't bother trying to even comment on anything ambchang has to say. He always turns it into a debate. Always.
    As opposed to you who never argued anything. Never.

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