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6-1 on Monday. The party is obviously listening to Clinton.
5-5-08 - Added DNC Kalyn Free (OK) for Obama.
- Added DNC Theresa Morelli (DA)* for Clinton.
- Added DNC Michael Cryor (MD) and DNC Lauren Glover (MD) for Obama
- Added IL add-on Richard Daley (IL)# for Obama. 2 other IL add-ons will be added when we get a valid source
6-1 on Monday. The party is obviously listening to Clinton.
Let me break it down to you again with numbers.
Obama needs 282 at this time to win. 404 pledged delegates are left. Lets split those down the middle. 202 to each. I think Obama probably gets more, but w/e. So that leaves him with 80 delegates from the remaining 273 Super Delegates. He's getting a few of those per day so by the time June rolls around Obama has already racked up all the delegates he needs.
EVEN A 2:1 RATIO WITH THE SUPER DELEGATES DOESN'T WIN THE RACE FOR CLINTON! And she's having days where she's on teh wrong end of a 6:1 ratio. LOL
No more primaries, Obama is at the magic number, what do you think the party leaders do? They tell Clinton to off in not so subtle ways. Convention rolls around in September and no one even remembers the Spring primaries.
GG.
I'm not talking about Clinton beating Obama. I read all your posts and concluded you are right. There is no chance Obama loses the nomination.
What I'm talking about is democrats going against denmocrats because of the animonisity between sides.
I think you're overestimating any resentment that will endure after this fight by any Clinton supporters. She can try to do what she wants, but once the nomination process is officially over then the Party will support its candidate.
Yeah, people like Pee Wee will be es about it, but the vast majority won't. The Democrats are really motivated right now. Thats why they're getting record turnouts. In the end, they'll support a democrat even if it wasn't their top choice in the primary season.
I concur. But there are many republicans who want to vote deomocrat who will vote for McCain if their choice doesn't get the nomination.
It'll be a pretty even split after today's results come in. Hillary will win IN and Obama will win NC.
Nothing much will change in the delegate count.
I run across this little column this morning. Says it all, in my opinion.
Democrat Primaries A Microcosm Of Socialist Thinking
By Doug Patton
May 6, 2008
As I write this, Democrats in the states of Indiana and North Carolina are poised to express their preferences in the ongoing primary slugfest between U.S. Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama. Which of them wins is of little importance. What counts, as with all things liberal, is fairness.
A generation ago, Democrats decided that fairness outweighed the need for an orderly process that actually produced a viable candidate for President of the United States. Following the 1968 debacle in Chicago, the party rigged the system so that never again would their bigwigs be denied a voice in the presidential nominating convention.
By 1984, the Democrats had come up with the ridiculous nominating process we see in action this year. It included the "super-delegates" we have heard so much about, unelected delegations consisting of senators, congressmen, governors and other party officials who are guaranteed a seat at the table whether they deserve it or not.
Additionally, in the name of fairness, the party has continued to en ber itself with a set of rules that prevents two equally popular candidates like Clinton and Obama from ever truly winning a primary. In Democrat primaries, there are no winner-take-all elections. This creates a situation where a candidate can win what would, under any other cir stances, be considered a landslide (say, 60-40) and walk away with very few more delegates than the loser.
This arcane system is a microcosm of socialist thinking. In the eternal utopia of the liberal mind, no one should really win or lose. No one should have more than anyone else. Everything should be equally distributed. In fact, equality of opportunity means nothing, while equality of result means everything. Anyone who gets ahead must be penalized. As in their primary elections, no matter how hard you work, no matter how much you prosper, no matter how diligently you plan, you will never get beyond a certain point. To allow you to do so would be unfair.
It is the reason why, in a recent debate, when asked about the capital gains tax, Barack Obama made the stunning confession that he didn't care that raising the tax would actually decrease revenues to the federal government. For him, it is about fairness. He said that!
Similarly, Hillary Clinton is touting a "windfall profits tax" on oil companies to "pay for" the gas tax holiday she wants to give us this summer. It's all about fairness. The oil companies are prospering so they must be punished. Never mind that corporations don't pay taxes; people pay taxes. Oil companies, like all corporations, will simply pass on any tax on their "windfall profits" to all of us at the pump. And when they do, Democrats will be right there to pounce on their "greed." Nothing will be said about government greed.
Both Clinton and Obama want to force you to pay for your neighbor's health care when you can barely afford to pay for your own, even as they try to convince you that it's free for everyone.
This is socialism, pure and simple. Democrats can dress it up and call it anything they want, but we have seen it in action time and again all over the world. The former Soviet Union achieved total equality - meaning that everyone was equally miserable. It doesn't take much of a five-year plan to have an entire country standing in line for a dried-out potato and a stale loaf of bread.
So the next time you hear Clinton or Obama or any other Democrat talk about making the rich "pay their fair share," ask yourself how it benefits you to have the job creators of our society punished for their prosperity. Ask yourself how stifling the growth of our economy helps your lot in life. And ask yourself how a party that is more interested in equality and fairness than in freedom and opportunity can ever lead this country anywhere but onto the ash heap of history.
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Doug Patton is a freelance columnist who has served as a political speechwriter and public policy advisor. His weekly columns are published in newspapers across the country and on selected Internet web sites, including Human Events Online, TheConservativeVoice.com and GOPUSA.com, where he is a senior writer and state editor. Readers may e-mail him at [email protected].
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Note -- The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, and/or philosophy of GOPUSA.
Do you ever form your own opinions?
Im going to laugh my @ss off when Hillary wins the nomination, Manny can't you smell the upset? It's a coming...
The Math...
Hillary needs to take it to the Convention.
I can't wait!
I could ask you the same. But to answer your question:
Yes. But I also like to post things that reinforces my
opinion. Don't you, sure you do.
One of these days you may even see the "light" and come
on over to our side. As a conservative, not some wrong
headed dimm-0-crap.
As expected, it looks like Obama will take NC, and Hillary will get IN. I'm not sure what this means in the exact # of delegates allotted (are they winner-take-all?), but it does mean another indecisive primary result, which means the Democratic race will go on.
I can see why my Democratic friends are frustrated. They've been working non-stop since January, hoping for a clear Democratic winner. They're sick of this fight, and they want to return to their first love, which is trashing Republicans. I predict Obama supporters will tout their victory in NC as some big thing, hoping to get this primary season over with.
Next two primaries are KY and WV. I think Hillary gets them both.
You point out so much obvious its amazing. Any Obama win at this point just solidifies his victory even more. I ran numbers for you with the assumption that Clinton would win 60% of each primary from here on out. What do you think happens to those numbers when OBAMA wins 60% of a primary?
So sensitive! You'll find this hard to believe, but I'm actually looking forward to an Obama candidacy this fall.
I should hope, however, that you direct your feminine rage toward the Clintonistas. Hillary's been causing nothing but trouble for the Messiah, lying and scheming and what not. If she does, say, steal this nomination from the Anointed One, I trust you will remember her slander and lack of scruples come Election Day.
I'm not disputing that the Golden Child will take his lead into the convention. But this race is nowhere near over. Expect Chairman Dean to ask, again, for the superdelegates to make up their mind before the convention.
On the other hand ... even if the Clintons can get the popular vote to appear like it's in their favor, I'm not sure the super-delegates will see it their way. Why would they want to make young voters angry, tork off blacks, and get the Obama cultists to plot a bloody coup? So I think they break for Obama at the convention.
That said ... the convention is going to be fantastic. I can't wait for Hillary's speech.
This is not a parody ...
And butterflies and things fly out of him!
Apparently, he endorses some 1950's laundry detergent.
He appears ... transparent.
It is over. You're just too dense to grasp the numbers that have said this is over for quite some time now.
He's making IN very close. CBS was ing STUPID for calling it so early.
Um, no. Re-read my posts. I'm saying I agree that the numbers are in the Golden Child's favor.
Another voting day, another delegate beating for Hillary
+7 delegates on the day for HUSSEIN!
Just go away, and saving us from looking at bulging pantsuits for 4 years.
uncommitted superdelegates MUST get off the fence, even switch, for Obama.
Good one!
50/50 virtual tie my ass.
If I were to put $$ on it, I'd say the Super-Ds break for Obama. But it'll be a tough decision.
If they indeed select Obama, they have just torked off blue-collar democrats, Catholics and evangelical Democrats, and seniors.
On the other hand, if they go with Clinton, they risk torking off student radicals, guilty white libs, Obama cultists, and blacks. (However ... blacks have been treated far worse by Democrats in the past, and they always come home in the end.)
That said, I welcome an Obama candidacy!
So much for its going to the convention. Virtually nothing changed last night but you and the Media (save for a few people) act like Obama made some huge earth shattering steps.
I love it. Keep giving us your predictions that change by the hour Don.
Um, no. I admit that I am more optimistic about Obama's chances than I was 2 weeks ago, but Obama kicked butt in NC last night, while Hillary barely won in IN.
I've come to the realization, however, that the Super-D's ought to break for the Messiah. It's the path of least resistance for them. But I don't mean to say that it won't go to the convention, because it will. And the convention will be awesome.
Obama cultists, however, still should have concerns about their Leader's overall electability in the general. I'm not sure how he gets blue-collar voters or Catholics (or evangelicals). I'm not sure how voters will somehow overlook the Chosen One's radical friends (Ayers, Wright, and more yet to be uncovered). Not that McCain's campaign is airtight, but an Obama candidacy raises serious problems.
The problem is that the Democratic electorate is seriously divided. The division, however, wasn't caused by Hillary's candidacy, and it sure won't go away because Chairman Dean says so. So, I welcome an Obama candidacy. Really.
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