What's Kobe got that Tony doesn't?

[urunobili]

Parker will be the spurs weapon to win more championships in the future... i foresee him having 3 more rings and probably a finals MVP on each one of them...

[timvp]

2) If you had a crappy team but could add 1 good player, would you take Kobe or Parker?

Parker for the reasons mentioned above...with a special focus on the fact that Kobe whines and demands to be traded if he feels he's on a crappy team.

PWNT. I had to laugh at this ownage.

It's true. You put Kobe on a crappy team and he goes all emo. Does Laker Fan not remember this summer? Kobe actually had a good team around him and he still went more emo than an emo with eternal PMS. The dumbass was the one person in LA who couldn't see Bynum was a stud prospect.

Bryant is a got damn good player but to say he'd do anything other than whine and his way off of a crappy team is laughable. He was whining and ing when he had a superstar center prospect, an All-Star caliber player in Odom and a dozen good prospects next to him. Put him on the Grizzlies or the Bucks and the emo would be slitting his wrists within a month.

[whottt]

It's funny watching the Lakers demand I be banned for holding Kobe accountable for his own words..


It's like they think this is KobeGround er LakerGround or something.

[whottt]

PWNT. I had to laugh at this ownage.

It's true. You put Kobe on a crappy team and he goes all emo. Does Laker Fan not remember this summer? Kobe actually had a good team around him and he still went more emo than an emo with eternal PMS. The dumbass was the one person in LA who couldn't see Bynum was a stud prospect.

Bryant is a got damn good player but to say he'd do anything other than whine and his way off of a crappy team is laughable. He was whining and ing when he had a superstar center prospect, an All-Star caliber player in Odom and a dozen good prospects next to him. Put him on the Grizzlies or the Bucks and the emo would be slitting his wrists within a month.

Well said


LakerFan wants to only look at talent and skill set...and ignore all other factors.

[E20]

Kobe Byrant is a much better player than TP. [/end thread]
Much more HOF material [/end thread X2]

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

PWNT. I had to laugh at this ownage.

It's true. You put Kobe on a crappy team and he goes all emo. Does Laker Fan not remember this summer? Kobe actually had a good team around him and he still went more emo than an emo with eternal PMS. The dumbass was the one person in LA who couldn't see Bynum was a stud prospect.

Bryant is a got damn good player but to say he'd do anything other than whine and his way off of a crappy team is laughable. He was whining and ing when he had a superstar center prospect, an All-Star caliber player in Odom and a dozen good prospects next to him. Put him on the Grizzlies or the Bucks and the emo would be slitting his wrists within a month.

Emo Kobe.

[MajicMan]

(I think everyone knows Kobe is a top 3 player in the league and Tony isn't.)

Let's not give whottt too much credit here. I think deep down inside that tiny dinosaur brain of his he truly believes this .

[whottt]

Let's not give whottt too much credit here. I think deep down inside that tiny dinosaur brain of his he truly believes this .

, the guy who prefers Kobe over Parker because Kobe has better eyebrows is calling someone else out?


Seriously...you should never post again under that name.

[spursfaninla]

Kobe this last summer...to Kobe today illustrate anything?

Dude has stellar talent, will, skills, experience.

But he is missing vast chunks of character, which impacts my choice, if I am a GM, in considering his drama queen ass on my team.

Dude is great if you surround him with enough talent to front run. Otherwise he is a total .

[SRJ]

All things being equal, I take Kobe.

But some people are inflating Kobe into something he's not - one argument in this thread put Kobe ahead of MJ. The only thing Kobe does as well as Michael is score. Kobe may well be the second-best shooting guard in NBA history, but there's a big gap between Jordan at #1 and him.

[Medvedenko]

Just end this thread....but then again I'll have it bumped to show Whott's truly inane takes and brings up that's not court related when arguing his lame insights.

Why even argue, you can bring up stats, character traits, you name it it won't matter to the faithful. Who know what kind of player parker would have turned out to be if it wasn't for him landing on the spurs. I love the EMO Kobe....nice...

That's reason enough that this thread is basketball bankrupt.

[timvp]

I love the EMO Kobe....nice...

That's reason enough that this thread is basketball bankrupt.

Kobe wasn't acting emo last summer? Who would you describe it? Ho-ish?

[Medvedenko]

Kobe wasn't acting emo last summer? Who would you describe it? Ho-ish?

Who the cares how he was "acting" "last year"....it's 2008 and we're up 3-0 in the first round with a serious shot and Kobe has been playing great up to this point. Also, Kobe's the only player I know that can bottle up all of the media attention and scrutiny and actually play the damn game and excel. He's the most important player for Team USA and the NBA, everything he does is analyzed to death and every talking head with lips has something to say about him, good, bad, and indifferent. There is no other player in the league that has to put up with his bull . Does he whine, is he anti-social, make cheesy commercials, complain, calls out teammates, for sure...but when he's on the court (where it actually matters) is where he shines and focused on winning over anything else. The rest of said bull has created many careers in the annals of sport writing. His game actually cashes those cheques.

[timvp]

I don't want to answer your questions.

Fair enough.

[Medvedenko]

Fair enough.

Are you questions basketball questions or US weekly questions. I can't tell anymore on this board.

[KidCongo]

Parker.He's less cancerous, he's less selfish, he's less likely to demand to be traded, he's less likely to demand someone else be traded, he's less likely to attempt to get his coach fired....

How would u know that?

He has never been in the same position as Kobe..

[spurscenter]

Balls

[alamo50]

That feeling of guilt

[MONTENEGRINO]

I say nothing.

Discuss....

If Kobe played aside of TD Celtics record (11 straight) would be probably crashed before two of them are retired... Kobe has everything that Tony doesn't.

[thiste]

Tony doesn't have to molest girls to get that booty :

[Pulgoso]

What's Kobe got that Tony doesn't? Nothing. But let me ask you this, what Tony got that Kobe doesn't? The answer is Manu Ginobili that they both capable of scoring 40+ points.

[Hemotivo]

That feeling of guilt

[Pulgoso]

A reliever. Tony do not have to exert tremendous effort to win a game because there are many other rosters that can stepup to win a game. But with Lakers without Kobe Lakers can hardly win a game specially in a close scoring game. In the other way around just simply put a good defensive player that can shutdown and frustrate Kobe the whole team will play miserable.

[Pulgoso]

3 championship ring...and Tony Parker has 4 championship ring...looking forward for his 5th before 2008 season end.

[fyatuk]

Kobe vs Parker? You have gotta be kidding me. This is so ridiculous I'm not even going to answer the question, instead I pose several other questions.

1) If you were to start a franchise today who would you rather have, Kobe or Parker?

If those are my only options, I take Tony. Kobe has generated way too much drama and distraction over his carreer to make me want him.

2) If you had a crappy team but could add 1 good player, would you take Kobe or Parker?

Stupid question. If you need a point guard you take Tony, you need a SG or SF you take Kobe. I mean, it's not like a crappy team can't have good players in certain positions. Plus, Kobe would be horrid for turning around a crappy team (trade me, trade me, trade me). Tony would probably go along for the ride and bolt after the contract was up.

3) If the game was on the line, who would you rather have taking the final shot?
4) Final 30 seconds and you're up with the other team fouling you, who would you want taking the foul shots?
5) If you needed 3 points, who would you want getting those 3 points for you?
6) If you needed to lock down the other team's best player, who would you want as the defender?

Definitely Kobe on these, between the two. Of course, opening it up to the rest of the league would be Nash, Manu, and Bowen respectively :P

7) If Kobe and Parker were to play 1 on 1, who would win? Would it even be close?
8) Would Parker have a chance at stopping Kobe?
9) Would Kobe have a chance at stopping Parker?

The answers to 8 and 9 are both no. Well, both slim. 7 depends on the rules.

Kobe has no weaknesses on the court. Tony Parker's a stellar player as a 2nd or 3rd option...but he can never be THE man on a team.

Kobe's weakness is his head. I imagine his head is on the court when he is

When he's been healthy this year, Tony has been the #1 option until the last 2 minutes of the game, and that's only a concession to Manu being one of if not the most clutch player in the world.