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    What's there to explain?? He started HOT, cooled down to about 13 points per game (except maybe during those big games where he outscored everyone on the team) and then he increased his point average to what it is now. I wouldn't start a discussion on PPG if I were you, Parker is averaging 3.7 more minutes on the floor than Manu this season, and still has a lower PPG average than Ginobili (granted its a small diference, but still lower). Either way, I specifically mentioned that in my point of view, consistance involves other aspects other than points, and like I said, if you don't have facts don't bother arguing. The ball is on your court.

    ok so going hot then cooling off very considerably isn't inconsisitant?
    BTW Parker started off slowly, then he gradually increased his PPG to what it is now, I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure before the Phoenix game, Parker's was higher (actually im positive)

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    Averaging 3.7 more minutes per game warrants a very much larger diference than the meager .2 point differential TP had over Manu before the Suns game. Either way its higher now

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    I think he is but I'm biased.

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    Considering Tony's primary function is to Pass (he has way more assists per game) i would dis-agree

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    I don't think Tony will have a good game tonight. The flu has been hanging on to the Spurs players for a while, and if he just got it recently then he's not going to be over it this quickly. Duncan and Devin reportedly had it for 2-3 weeks. But the Parker bashers will continue to bash him if he doesn't play well, even if he's out there with a 102 fever.
    The Spur players need to stop hugging and kissing so much.

    The flu is contagious!

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    MaNuMaNiA, I agree with most of what you are saying, but then again, I'm biased, I'm from Argentina.

    Welcome to the forum!

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    People!!! I AM NOT BASHING ON TP!!! This whole thing started with my objecting to Ducks comments about how Manu's performance doesn't mean much. I just meant to say that in my opinion it proved that Manu "can kick it right up there with the rest of them" as they say. I DO NOT THINK PARKER IS A WORSE PLAYER, I DO NOT THINK HIS PERFORMANCE ON FRIDAY WAS AN INDICATION OF HOW HE PLAYS, AND I CERTAINLY AM NOT BASHING HIM. So please cool down your jets and lets get back on topic!

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    MaNuMaNiA, I agree with most of what you are saying, but then again, I'm biased, I'm from Argentina.

    Welcome to the forum!
    Thanks for the welcome

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    I'm sorry i can tell you're new, we're not bashing you, we are just bored and therfore kicking a dead horse until it's gone, that's the way it is here, Unless sequ is talking we're all pretty much just having a friendly discussion

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    I'm sorry i can tell you're new, we're not bashing you, we are just bored and therfore kicking a dead horse until it's gone, that's the way it is here, Unless sequ is talking we're all pretty much just having a friendly discussion

    Don't worry, didn't think you were bashing me, just thought I should clarify that I'm not a TP hater or anything of the sort. Still, I've got to say, I like the intensity of the discussions, shows how much heart and passion for this game we Spurs fans have. I rather have a forum such as this than a graveyard-shift like one.
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    ( uh that would be "we" spurs fans have) and exactly glad you see it that way, but Parker is still the more efficent player beacuse of his assists

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    ( uh that would be "we" spurs fans have) and exactly glad you see it that way, but Parker is still the more efficent player beacuse of his assists
    HAHAHAH! I see the horse isn't dead enough! Very well, everyone has the right to his or her opinion. We'll leave it at that.

    ( uh that would be "we" spurs fans have)
    My appologies for the mistake, it will be corrected immediately! lol

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    great job, ducks would be so un-proud

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    look spurs have not played for a few days

    the eagles game was not that exciting after the 3 quarter
    and spurs did not play tell this evening

    I just think tp is better then manu at this point this year
    not talking about last year

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    MaNuMaNiA
    I posted in a differnet thread that someone started manu is not god
    I posted in there he was last night

    he had a great outing
    tp has had great outings also this season

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    Manu was against the kings going for ten one game after 48, talk about inconsitancy MANUMANIA!

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    Manu was against the kings going for ten one game after 48, talk about inconsitancy MANUMANIA!
    He only took 8 shots with 50% accuracy.

    Moreover, no need for him to go off. The Kings sucked donkey's ass.

    He had a nice circus shot, though.

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    Manu was against the kings going for ten one game after 48, talk about inconsitancy MANUMANIA!

    I thought we settled this man, but obviously you seem obsesed with this ! I'm not going to start again on something I've already explained to you. If you think he is inconsistant then good for you, obviously you haven't looked carefully at the stats and considered the same angles that I have. Plus, I wouldn't say he was , he just came of a 48 point game fool, I think even ing Shaq would be tired, don't you?! You precious Tony Parker does for one game, and then fairly decent on the next, I wouldn't call that consistant either.... You know what, I can't even believe I argueing with you about this same . Think what you will! AND NEXT TIME YOU TRY AND ARGUE SOMETHING WITH ME BRING MORE THAN JUST DUMB COMMENTS LIKE THOSE!

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    I can't believe Spurs fans keep fighting over which Spurs are better. They are both Spurs. Root for BOTH of them. Enjoy BOTH of them. Treasure BOTH of them. They are BOTH valuable to the success of this Spurs team.

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    I can't believe Spurs fans keep fighting over which Spurs are better. They are both Spurs. Root for BOTH of them. Enjoy BOTH of them. Treasure BOTH of them. They are BOTH valuable to the success of this Spurs team.
    That's what I've been saying, I like both of them, but these dumb pricks keep thinking I'm trashing on TP just because I believe Manu is at the same level. If I sounded like I don't enjoy how TP plays, then I apologize. I think he is definately one of the best point guards in the league.

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    This thread was started to support Manu, but even though i think he is a better all-star candidate due to his games against Phoenix I think Parker is more effective.

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    Parker may be a little bit better scoring wise, but Manu is probably one of the most exciting and efficient players around the league and can make things happen at the most important times of the game and usually is clutch. I even remember hearing Magic Johnson last year call him one of the most exciting international players around. He's really starting to build a fan club with all the commentators. They're both very important to our success and I'm glad we have both of them.
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    Not anymore.

    Ginobili 15.7
    Parker 15.5
    Probably now Manu is the Second Scorer, but doesnīt matter

    Manu will never be the Second Scorer if Tony take more shots and play more minutes

    Now by 48 Minutes Manu scores 25,5 and Tony 22,3
    By Game Tony Shoot 554 times and Manu 423
    Tony have a Better %: 49,1% to 48%, but thatīs because Manu shot more threes: 145 for Manu and Tony 88

    Really, Tony Shoot 49,1%, 53,2% from 2 and 27,3% from behind
    Manu Shoot 48%, 52,9% from 2 and 38,6% from behind
    From 2 there arenīt any difference, but for 3 there are a big one

    The Ket stat is Tony Shoots 466 from 2 and Manu shoots only 278
    Obviously Tont must to take better %

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    Manu was against the kings going for ten one game after 48, talk about inconsitancy MANUMANIA!
    Inconsistency is 25 points one game with 50 % FG, and 2 points; 1 of 9 in the next and the Coach needs to sit him in the Doghouse in one big game

    Probably the only Stat what you can see is Points

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